ᐅ Single-family house construction project, 140 sqm with basement

Created on: 20 Jul 2018 15:15
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Milo3
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Milo3
20 Jul 2018 15:15
Dear community, first of all, a big compliment for the very helpful tips here. I have been planning—or rather trying to plan—our house for half a year now. We have already consulted an architect and want to build with solid construction. How do you assess our project in terms of cost?

- Single-family house with 140 sqm (1507 sq ft) and full basement
- Standard according to energy-saving regulations
- Refrigerator with external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS / WDVS)
- Square, practical design, without dormers, bay windows, etc.
- External dimensions 7.49 * 11.49 meters (25 * 38 feet)
- 1 bathroom upstairs, 1 guest shower room downstairs
- Ground floor open living area with chimney (not really necessary, but we want the coziness of a stove)
- Upper floor with 3 bedrooms
- Basement with 1 finished room as an office, 3 storage/technical/utility rooms
- Planned is an air-to-water heat pump and underfloor heating
- Controlled ventilation with heat recovery system
- Triple-glazed windows with external blinds
- Soil according to geotechnical report is simple sandstone, so excellent conditions, no rising groundwater pressure

Now, the architect gave us a rough estimate and said we should calculate about 400 Euro per cubic meter (796 m³). This seems rather high to us. To be prudent, we will structure our loan accordingly since someone could get sick or have delays.

However, we want to contribute a lot of DIY work ourselves. Heating, electrical work, roof structure installation, plumbing, floor laying, and gypsum/plaster work will be done by us.

Do you think it could be possible to manage around 200k, if everything goes optimally? This is only about the construction costs; everything else like landscaping, garage, and terrace will be contracted separately.
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Zaba12
20 Jul 2018 15:40
In short: definitely not.
If you’re lucky, you might just barely avoid exceeding 350,000 euros with a lot of extra work.

That would be 70,000 euros less than my costs without extra work.

I’m building 139 sqm (1,495 sq ft) with a basement myself. My architect also calculated 400 euros per cubic meter.

The fittings are very similar, just with brick construction without external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS), but no roller blinds.
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Milo3
20 Jul 2018 16:04
Phew, that sounds intense. What exactly makes it so expensive? No waterproof concrete basement, no gold-plated faucets, everything simple and standard... And it’s supposed to cost $420k?! As far as I know, KL and the surrounding area aren’t exactly the most expensive regions in Germany. I’m really curious what the cost drivers are, especially since so much is being done as self-construction.
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WilhelmRo
20 Jul 2018 16:09
140x1800 = 252,000
+60,000 basement
312,000
+40,000 move-in ready
50,000 additional construction costs
etc. 200,000 is not realistic.
Best regards
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Zaba12
20 Jul 2018 16:11
WilhelmRo schrieb:
140x1800= 252,000
+60,000 basement
312,000
+40,000 turnkey
50,000 additional construction costs
etc. 200,000 is not realistic.
Regards

For the fittings, the original poster is estimating at least 2,000 euros per square meter (about 186 USD per square foot).
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Milo3
20 Jul 2018 16:13
1800 euros per square meter already including EGE
Zaba12 schrieb:
For the fittings, the original poster is at a minimum of 2000 euros per square meter

And what about the own work, which the actual question referred to? How much can I deduct here or is possible?