ᐅ Looking for a construction company in the Greater Stuttgart area!

Stuttgart0711 schrieb:

When I count the areas, I count them exactly the same way. Adding everything up, it’s 175 to 166 square meters (m²) of living space. I don’t include terraces. Then there are the basements on top of that. In total, the complete area is 237 to 217 m² (square meters).

I attached that for reference.

And yes, the quote states a fixed price. I didn’t know that the trades would still need to be tendered at Speidel.

Personally, the offer seems clearly too low for the planned area in the Stuttgart region. We’re talking about a move-in ready house, after all. Maybe you’re lucky and it’s just a bargain, but such a large difference is hard to explain. Back then, after adjusting for specifications and normalizing, my three quotes were all within about +/- $15,000 (USD) of each other.

Yes, that's strange, isn't it? Have you ever contacted Speidel?

Stuttgart0711 schrieb:
Attached it here.

And yes, the offer states a fixed price.

I don’t see any mention of landfill fees or a specification of the painting work or floor coverings. Are the pipes in the basement installed flush with the walls or surface-mounted? How are the walk-in showers executed? Electrical and plumbing work can easily make a difference of more than $20,000.
Is there any further detail in the scope of work description?

I still think this is a comparison of apples and oranges. One is a turnkey project with comprehensive warranty coverage, 2–4 signatures, and naturally higher quality.
The other is basically a project with individual contracts, but without an architect involved—instead, it’s managed by a limited company. This means each trade is responsible for its own warranty, so the role of the company would be interesting.

I only know Speidel by name and personally wouldn’t consider requesting a quote from them. According to their website, they seem like a typical "project developer" with a small team who outsources everything. To me, that usually means low-cost providers winning contracts, trades blaming each other, scheduling issues, and so on. A single-family home is the biggest investment most people will make in their lives, so your gut feeling should be 100% right. On the other hand, you still have $150,000 set aside for experts and lawyers—a solid buffer. And if everything goes smoothly, you’ve easily saved yourself the cost of a Porsche 911.

Slava_S schrieb:
I don’t see any mention of landfill fees or specifications for the painting work or flooring. Are the pipes in the basement installed behind the walls or exposed? How will the barrier-free (flush) showers be constructed? Electrical and plumbing work can easily cause a difference of more than 20k.

Is there any detailed information about this in the scope of work description?

I still think apples are being compared to oranges here. One is a turnkey build with comprehensive warranty coverage, 2-4 signatures, and naturally higher quality. The other is basically a project with separate contracts, but no architect involved—just a limited company (GmbH). That means each trade is responsible for its own warranty; the role of the company would be interesting.

Also, the offer mentions a semi-detached house (duplex). I thought it was supposed to be a detached single-family home.

Slava: Of course, there is a building specification—what else would there be?

As mentioned before, the landfill fees and excavation costs are included; this is even explicitly stated in the building specification. If needed, the excavated soil is temporarily stored for later backfilling. None of this incurs extra charges—I even called to confirm. There are no level-access showers included; these cost extra, just like other upgraded standards. That’s why I roughly estimated an additional 20,000 for plumbing and electrical work, but I was more or less mocked for that. Even if I estimate 50,000, I’m still nowhere close.

Otherwise, both providers use textured wallpaper as the standard finish, which is unacceptable. Also, in the basement, the sockets are surface-mounted, again with both providers. I have already compared the key points; I am not completely uninformed.

The main argument for Fermo is the monolithic construction method and the all-in-one service. And yes, the warranty issue is definitely a concern in any case.

It remains challenging.

Slava_S schrieb:
I’m not seeing any mention of landfill fees or a specification for painting work or floor coverings here. Are the pipes in the basement installed flush with the wall or surface-mounted? How are the level-access showers executed? Electrical and plumbing can easily make a difference of more than 20k.

Does the building specification provide any details on this?

I still believe apples are being compared to oranges here. One is a turnkey build with comprehensive warranty, 2-4 signatures, and obviously higher quality.

The other is basically a build with separate contracts, but no architect involved, just a GmbH (limited company). That means each trade is responsible for its own warranty; the role of the GmbH would be interesting.