ᐅ Connecting a Cistern from the Basement – But How?

Created on: 6 Jul 2023 09:48
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b2see
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b2see
6 Jul 2023 09:48
Hello,
I hope you can share some tips with me.
In the basement utility room, I have a PVC pipe embedded in the wall that leads outside and then towards the cistern (distance about 10 m (33 feet)).
My question is, how should I pass a hose (for a domestic water system) through it? And from which side? From inside to outside or the other way around?
The cistern has been full of water to the edge for 6 years—do I absolutely need to pump it out beforehand?

Regards,
Boris
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rick20186 Jul 2023 18:05
That is definitely a conduit pipe. Where does it end exactly? I assume just near the cistern cover or ideally inside the cistern.
In any case, it should end above the water level; otherwise, it would already be in the basement 😉
For durability reasons, a HDPE pipe is best, especially since you intend to use it as the suction line.
So, don’t use a garden hose, but rather a corrugated hose/pipe.
As mentioned, HDPE is preferable but the hardest to pull through.
Using DN25 or DN32 is possible over 10 meters (33 feet). Warm the pipe in the sun beforehand. Use silicone spray, soapy water… as a lubricant.
1. Use a pulling aid (fiberglass rod) to pull a sturdy cord or thin steel cable through.
2. Attach the pipe/hose to it.
3. Make sure to install a gasket seal in the basement. It’s a miracle no water has leaked yet.

Pulling from top to bottom is easier.
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b2see
6 Jul 2023 19:55
Hi Rick,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, I think the pipe leads directly into the cistern (just above the overflow).
I will buy the pulling aid later from Am**n.
I need to look up this PE-HD hose.
What do you mean by sealing ring?
So, from top to bottom means... from the cistern outwards. So, pump out the water?
rick20186 Jul 2023 20:34
PE-HD is a standard potable water pipe. It is rather flexible tubing. Alternatively, use a reinforced flexible pipe.
A garden hose might collapse due to negative pressure, which would stop the water flow.
A sealing ring, for example from Doyma, seals the sewer pipe (KG pipe) in the basement. The pipe runs through and is also sealed.
It is best to seal both sides of the sewer pipe.
Yes, from the cistern. Since you are above the water level, you do not need to drain it.
What do you want to use the water for inside the house? If you plan to use it for any appliances, hopefully you have a filter and a separate pipe. Do not feed it back into the drinking water supply...
11ant6 Jul 2023 22:22
b2see schrieb:

The cistern has been full of water to the brim for 6 years; do I absolutely need to pump it out beforehand?
For garden irrigation, it should be fine, probably also for washing machines; however, I wouldn't use it as drinking water if it has been standing that long. Near the bottom, it might be rich in suspended solids ;-)
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i_b_n_a_n13 Jul 2023 09:00
I use cistern water for the washing machine (theoretically, as I don’t have a washing machine), the toilet, and garden irrigation. However, a coarse filter in the cistern and another one at the domestic water system are advisable. Any connection to the municipal water supply MUST be excluded. This is usually done professionally by plumbing companies.