Hello everyone,
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas


We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
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pagoni202030 Jul 2020 19:39neo-sciliar schrieb:
I have two options: 1.) draw in the free online tool without dimensions, or 2.) share the plan from the planner. Everything else would mean printing it out, scribbling on it, and scanning it again. I don’t have a printer (I live paperless and like it that way) nor a scanner. Option 3 – pen and graph paper (or are you also paperless with that?) to write down or draw the necessary lines with measurements.
Option 4 – ask the Stommel house planner to email you the plan with the dimensions included as well as your furniture layout, since the planner should have a plan with measurements, I assume at least.
Option 5 – as an apparently tech-savvy builder, mark the missing dimensions and furniture on the respective documents (please don’t just scribble), which doesn’t require a scanner.
...I have a few more ideas...
neo-sciliar schrieb:
The terrace will be planned somewhere on the remaining property. Best next to the electrical box; there you’ll have peace and always shade. Are you serious?? Somewhere…?? I’m cracking up. You said you know about 95% of the walking paths etc... and now it’s still open where the terrace will go… somewhere on the property, wherever happens to be left over? Someday we definitely have to share a beer together—and maybe a mafia cake, oops... here people call that pizza, I honestly like your humor, otherwise I would have already thrown my PC into my 10-liter (2.6-gallon) aquarium.
neo-sciliar schrieb:
The terrace will be planned somewhere on the remaining property after we’ve lived there for 1 year and know where the sun is at what time. Independent of the house. You really should be on stage, my friend, you’re fantastic!!! I thought the raincoat story with the enclosed toilet seat and the escape door was already the best laugh. You move into the house you planned, you say, and then live there for 1 year without a terrace because only THEN will you figure out (or be able to?) where the sun rises or sets and where to place the terrace? You’re truly hilarious!!!
I’ll have to go out early tomorrow morning and check if the sun comes up in the same spot again, that moody diva.
And what will you do if after that year the sun’s position tells you that the best place to sit is in the furthest corner? Will you then not build a terrace on the house or move the house a bit to the side?
Do you sometimes read what you write here?
“The terrace will be planned ‘somewhere’” – that alone is contradictory because if it were “planned,” it wouldn’t be “somewhere.” Maybe it then needs to be sunset-oriented in front of the “toilet/fire escape door” you have also firmly planned?
In any case, from what I read, it will be somewhere apart from the house, wherever there’s still space – and that’s where I get confused... what now??
sciliar schrieb:
Utility room planned, separated from the house with passage to the “breakfast terrace.” And where exactly is that, are there multiple terraces?
We certainly won’t get a proper house together like this, but definitely an extremely individual one—and we’re enjoying it, so that’s something. As far as I know you by now, you apparently enjoy this too.
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neo-sciliar30 Jul 2020 20:00@pagoni2020 When and where are we having a drink? You probably already know what you want to drink and how much. Have you reserved a parking spot yet? I like both your sense of humor and my individuality.
For our first house, we decided on the terrace during the construction phase. I regretted that decision for 10 years. Today, I know the house will have a terrace door at the back, leading to a path to a terrace that will be located behind the house. Unfortunately, I can’t yet say where the house’s shadow will fall. I also don’t know where the neighbor will build their terrace. These are things I will take into account. Until then, I’ll be sitting with a temporary solution. Better than being annoyed for 20 years.
The breakfast terrace will be located between the street and the house, on the south side. I already know where the sun will be at different times there. I can plan that today.
But I don’t see it as a problem. I need a door that allows access to the back of the house. From there, a path will lead to a terrace.
Warning, stubbornness of old age: Is it a mental block that says a terrace must be directly next to the house, oriented to it, or vice versa?
For our first house, we decided on the terrace during the construction phase. I regretted that decision for 10 years. Today, I know the house will have a terrace door at the back, leading to a path to a terrace that will be located behind the house. Unfortunately, I can’t yet say where the house’s shadow will fall. I also don’t know where the neighbor will build their terrace. These are things I will take into account. Until then, I’ll be sitting with a temporary solution. Better than being annoyed for 20 years.
The breakfast terrace will be located between the street and the house, on the south side. I already know where the sun will be at different times there. I can plan that today.
But I don’t see it as a problem. I need a door that allows access to the back of the house. From there, a path will lead to a terrace.
Warning, stubbornness of old age: Is it a mental block that says a terrace must be directly next to the house, oriented to it, or vice versa?
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pagoni202030 Jul 2020 20:37neo-sciliar schrieb:
When and where shall we have a drink? You probably already know what you want to drink and how much. Have you reserved a parking space yet? I like both your humor and my individuality. Perfect, you’re coming to my place! I’m planning for an underground garage, so there will be parking available!
Drinks? Sicilian wine, of course.
Or I can come to you—that’s easy. Always following the sun, past the terraces... then left in front of the power station.
But this time, I really mean it!
neo-sciliar schrieb:
Beware of the stubbornness-of-age club: Is it a mental barrier that says a terrace has to be attached to the house or oriented toward it—or the other way around? True, I admit to this age-related stubbornness, though I thought I had read that you also build with accessibility in mind... hence the path leading us somewhere “off” to the terrace, definitely not along the house.
Now that I’ve removed the mental barrier, I could actually imagine having a community garden plot in the neighboring village as a terrace, perfectly positioned for the sun.
Are you waiting to install the dining room windows @haydee mentioned for a year or until the neighbor has built their own terrace? Those are the so-called sliding windows!
Cheers.....
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neo-sciliar31 Jul 2020 07:30hanse987 schrieb:
Either my eyesight is off, or the staircase won’t work like that. If the ceiling opening is as shown in the upper floor plan, then there won’t be a reasonable headroom. Roughly, I get about 170-180cm (67-71 inches).How do you calculate that?I have placed your current floor plan within the building plot. This means your house will be positioned right up against the street on the south side. The front door in the center prevents having a private south-facing terrace. In addition, from the south terrace, you have a direct view of the electrical substation.
On the north side, where the nice view is, you only have two small windows. On the south side, there is also only a small window area. Meanwhile, there is a large wall without windows on the west side because the neighbor is located there.

On the north side, where the nice view is, you only have two small windows. On the south side, there is also only a small window area. Meanwhile, there is a large wall without windows on the west side because the neighbor is located there.
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