ᐅ Comments and feedback on the floor plan layout are welcome.

Alessandro schrieb:

I am also quite sure that the furniture shown is too small.
For example, you have a 13m² (140 sq ft) living room with a large sofa placed in it. Such a sofa will not fit in there easily, especially with such a relatively large distance from the TV.

The sofa is 230 x 230 cm (91 x 91 inches) and corresponds to what we have now.

neo-sciliar schrieb:

Thanks, that’s helpful. Which two doors are you referring to?

The corner where the living room, dining area, and kitchen meet. I would approach that differently... more open.

neo-sciliar schrieb:

The sofa measures 230cm by 230cm (90 inches by 90 inches) and corresponds to what we currently have.

Ah, I just noticed the living room is 17 square meters (183 square feet). Still, I find the walkways tight, especially with a coffee table later on. Here’s a comparison with my 20 square meter (215 square feet) living room. As you can see, everything is already quite tight there.

Alessandro schrieb:

From the corner where the living room, dining area, and kitchen meet. I would solve that differently... more open.

Ah, I just noticed that the living room is 17 sqm (183 sq ft).
Still, I see the walkways as tight once you add a coffee table later.
Here is my 20 sqm (215 sq ft) living room for comparison. As you can see, everything is already quite tight there.

Thanks for your photo. That is really 20 sqm (215 sq ft), or 4 x 5 meters (13 x 16 feet)? Wow.

There is only one door to the living room; the other two are fixed glass panels to allow light to pass through. We have thought about this corner for a long time and are still not 100% satisfied. The brighter part has a cathedral ceiling, while the darker part has standard ceiling height. The wall between the dining area and living room is also only floor-to-ceiling height, so theoretically, you could look over it if you were taller than 245 cm (8 ft). If the wall coming from the kitchen wasn’t continuous, it would probably look strange. The corner in the hallway leading to the walk-in closet contains a built-in cabinet for everything that needs to be stored but should remain centrally accessible (vacuum cleaner, brooms, etc.). That cabinet would be lost if the entrance to the walk-in closet is moved there. We are still undecided about this.

neo-sciliar schrieb:

We want to build with Stommel Haus because, besides the planning, the concept and execution are also extremely important to us. And with Stommel Haus, this fits better than with all the other manufacturers we have seen.

NO, it does not fit at all, otherwise we wouldn’t have all this fuss here. Also, I don’t believe that you have properly “seen” the other manufacturers, because otherwise you wouldn’t give such a judgment about them. Stommel Haus is just one provider among many others, no more, no less. Geographic proximity—YES, that’s the only point, but even there you would find many alternatives among reputable, reliable, and competent builders... which is what you are looking for.

neo-sciliar schrieb:

The planner from Stommel Haus supports our project and thinks it’s good.

If your Stommel Haus planner actually thinks your absurd half-bathroom solution (I call it the raincoat version) is “good,” in my opinion they should consider switching to the tourism industry, where labyrinths are intentionally designed (sorry!). I just CAN’T BELIEVE IT!
What would happen if your wife gets locked in the bedroom because you or someone else came from the other side and is sitting on the toilet, so she is locked in the bedroom? Ok, then she waits or walks around the house with a raincoat. But what if your wife needs to use the bathroom too and can’t wait??????? It’s raining outside???????, so your “EMERGENCY EXIT” (your own term) is useless in the rain???? Will she then sit in the closet or on the lawn???
Don’t you really realize how odd this thinking is and how you even regret that this nonsense was removed from the plan on the advice of the forum?

neo-sciliar schrieb:

how error-prone the Stommel Haus planning can be,

SO IT IS!!!!

neo-sciliar schrieb:

We want to build with Stommel Haus because, besides the planning, the concept and execution are also extremely important to us. And with Stommel Haus, this fits better,

Do you really not see your own fatal contradiction regarding your Stommel Haus evaluation here???

neo-sciliar schrieb:

It would be nice if it could be brought back to a factual level. Just telling me that this is rubbish doesn’t help me.

This is factual. Everyone wants to help you, but you are as stubborn as a tank.

neo-sciliar schrieb:

Only, the floor plans I have seen, I also don’t like because they don’t meet our expectations at all (which are certainly diverse but basically clear).

You don’t like any floor plans except your own, with the fatal bathroom solution. Everything else is no good. Everyone else has no clue, only you and the Stommel guy, whose specialty seems to be locking wives in bedrooms while others sit on the toilet reading.
And what is “CLEAR” in your floor plan is only that it doesn’t work! That is the prevailing opinion among those involved here. Exactly THERE lies the problem of your stubbornness (I’m allowed to say this as we likely belong to a similar generation).

neo-sciliar schrieb:

If you look at the alleged contradictions and take a minute to think about them, they disappear.

These are not “alleged” contradictions... see the raincoat or the wife locked in the bedroom with a flushed face; these are ACTUAL contradictions.
I have thought about this for hours, others here for a while, and the result does not change. They do NOT disappear!

neo-sciliar schrieb:

The same with the exterior door in the bedroom. An emergency isn’t: the bathroom is closed (because that never happens), but rather: the smoke detector in the hallway goes off.

Ah, you are the boss declaring that locking the toilet door is forbidden (there are even two doors), because you decide the bathroom/toilet must always be open for passage.
When the alarm sounds, 99% of the time people just turn it off, and if there really is a fire once in a lifetime, they put it out or leave the room. I’m not going to build a door in the house for the case of fire, and if I do, where is the emergency exit from the other rooms?

neo-sciliar schrieb:

then—sorry—our floor plan is already pretty good

My suggestion after that statement: Just build it like that and feel comfortable with it!
We have exchanged messages before and hopefully you know that I take this seriously but as a peer, always with a rather friendly tone.
Go somewhere else and start over—above all, let others do it, it’s clearly not your specialty. Mine isn’t either, which is why I let modern-thinking people handle it.

11ant schrieb:

Wrong-way drivers are oncoming *SCNR*

....and so many at once

Well, @neo-sciliar has mentioned several times that in his family the bathroom door is simply not locked. They still happily walk through there while someone is using it. I wouldn’t do it myself either, but it’s not an issue for him.