Hello everyone,
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
neo-sciliar schrieb:
Hi,
attached are the current drafts. I don’t have the planner’s drawing yet – this was developed during a Skype session. On Tuesday, we will meet to plan in more detail.
The house is currently 13 meters (43 feet) wide and 10 meters (33 feet) deep, plus 2 meters (7 feet) for the bay window.
At least one of the children wants to stay in the region. Possibly, an independent apartment will be created upstairs fairly quickly, where they can live with their family.
Best regards, AndreasThat bent hallway is not great... I was already thinking about modifying/improving it, then I saw the bathroom/bedroom layout. For a new build, that’s a no-go.neo-sciliar schrieb:
I don’t understand either – what is different about us that we don’t like the standards, and why is our design so heavily criticized?I don’t like standard floor plans in 2D either. But ultimately, when seen in 3D with customized finishes and interior design tailored by the client, they almost always look good.
The problem seems to be that you want to make something different out of a common wheel. Instead of a nicer rim, you are adding corners to the wheel. You can argue about it as much as you want – the wheel is no longer standard. You accept the bumps because it’s your idea. But it’s still a bad design.
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neo-sciliar27 Jul 2020 08:15Do you know what bothers me here: everyone just says it’s rubbish. The example floor plans given don’t meet the requirements, and then that’s casually dismissed with “it just needs to be adjusted, it’s only a base.” When I make those adjustments, I always end up right back where I am now. And honestly, whether the door to the hallway is in the dressing room or the bathroom doesn’t fundamentally change the layout...... There are very few truly constructive contributions here. Very few. That’s a shame.
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Ideensucher27 Jul 2020 08:26neo-sciliar schrieb:
The example floor plans mentioned don’t meet the requirements... Really constructive ones are rare here.How can you be helped constructively if you don’t have even a basic idea of what you want and need? I want a bungalow, but I also want a straight staircase. The kitchen and dining room are our main living areas, but what’s even more important is that I have peace and quiet when watching TV while someone else is busy in the main living area. The children have nearly moved out—well, almost anyway, they might stay a little longer. Or one might move in directly with her husband and child. Who really knows for sure?
Quite a few variables, aren’t there?
Now we’re shifting from “two small kids’ bedrooms are enough” to “we need a separate apartment upstairs.” Of course, that should have a proper bathroom and its own kitchen.
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neo-sciliar27 Jul 2020 09:01neo-sciliar schrieb:
Hi, this is a really good idea if you’re serious about it. It won’t fail because of a bottle of champagne—maybe also an Amazon gift card.
So, I’ll try to list my (our) requirements, even though it’s not that simple.
- The plot with dimensions, neighboring buildings, and the building boundary is shown in the attachment. South is at the bottom, with the street there (completely quiet, a dead-end). Forest borders to the north and east. Construction is ongoing in the northwest.
- Family situation: children will soon be leaving home. They’re generally away and both need a place to sleep when at home.
- Rooms: living room, dining room, kitchen, shower bathroom without a bathtub but a large shower, toilet, office, sufficient storage space (8 meters (26 feet) closet plus other usual items), 2 (small) teenage bedrooms, master bedroom, guest bed.
- Access from the kitchen to the terrace facing south.
- Kitchen and dining areas separated from the living room, or at least arranged so one person can cook while another watches TV, or one has visitors while the other watches TV.
- Our daily life revolves mainly around the kitchen and dining areas.
- At least prepared for aging in place. This is hopefully still a while away, and I’m aware you can’t really plan for it, but I want to try.
- I’m currently really fond of stairs.
- My wife loves an open space (void) above the dining room.
- Regarding living area size, we’re thinking between 170 and 200 square meters (1,830 and 2,150 square feet).
- No attic (high knee wall, roof pitch 18°–22°, exposed rafters extending to the ridge).
- Double carport on the west side, next to that ugly (some might like it) utility shed.
- Front door either under the carport or facing the street.
I’m truly open to new ideas. I’m a complete beginner. And I’m really grateful for suggestions. I already get enough harsh criticism at home from my kids.
Regards, Andreas
P.S. I’m sure I forgot some things that are important to us. Please feel free to ask. Links to great floor plans are also very welcome. Hi, here I have summarized all requirements once again.
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Ideensucher27 Jul 2020 09:32Are these still current?
Because it also says: "Family situation: children will soon move out."
According to another post of yours, the daughter will apparently be living with you permanently. The future partner probably does not want to live with parents-in-law in one apartment, so a separate flat might be needed?
Because it also says: "Family situation: children will soon move out."
According to another post of yours, the daughter will apparently be living with you permanently. The future partner probably does not want to live with parents-in-law in one apartment, so a separate flat might be needed?
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