Hello everyone,
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
I was just about to say, "just build once the children are really only occasional guests," but
it doesn’t give me the impression that the children have clear plans regarding "when and if they move out" anytime soon.
That actually sounded like an experienced repeat builder with a whole notebook full of details the previous architect should have thought about, along with suggested improvements A, B, and C, including their considered evaluation. And now, after thirty pages, the thread still reads no more mature than those of first-time parents who are overwhelmed by all the confusing new terms, impressed by Pinterest and show homes, frustrated by financial advisors saying the money saved on the ground survey must be taken back from the hot tub, and the building authority says "no" (njet) to a larger dormer. It seems to me the director might be in the wrong movie here (?)
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neo-sciliar schrieb:
they basically criticize everything the parents do. The house doesn’t really matter to them.
it doesn’t give me the impression that the children have clear plans regarding "when and if they move out" anytime soon.
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We have built once before. And quickly realized the architect hadn’t considered many aspects.
That actually sounded like an experienced repeat builder with a whole notebook full of details the previous architect should have thought about, along with suggested improvements A, B, and C, including their considered evaluation. And now, after thirty pages, the thread still reads no more mature than those of first-time parents who are overwhelmed by all the confusing new terms, impressed by Pinterest and show homes, frustrated by financial advisors saying the money saved on the ground survey must be taken back from the hot tub, and the building authority says "no" (njet) to a larger dormer. It seems to me the director might be in the wrong movie here (?)
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neo-sciliar schrieb:
Why is that unfortunate? Because having the door to the corner of the dressing room removes the possibility of installing a built-in wardrobe both in the hallway and in the dressing room at that spot. Efficient use of space is the most important aspect. Well, that was just an example floor plan, which also has no problem, for example, being made slightly wider or similar adjustments.
Could you please upload the original floor plan from the designer with dimensions, and the upper floor as the new ground floor?
I’m also not quite sure how the house fits within the building plot. You want a double carport on the east side, right? How many meters are left for the house width then? According to the plan on page 1, the depth of the building plot is 13 m (43 feet), but your first floor plan was 15 x 14 m (49 x 46 feet). What size is the current one?
I think there is simply too little space on the ground floor for the kitchen, dining room, living room, bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, and utility room. In my opinion, living or sleeping areas need to be placed upstairs. I would put the bedroom upstairs and make the living room a separate room. If you really want to move downstairs later, you can just convert the living room into a bedroom. Having two bathrooms with showers can’t hurt, especially for children and future grandchildren.
If you have two teenage children now, you are probably not even 50 years old yet, right? That means you can probably still manage the stairs for another 30 years.
I’m also not quite sure how the house fits within the building plot. You want a double carport on the east side, right? How many meters are left for the house width then? According to the plan on page 1, the depth of the building plot is 13 m (43 feet), but your first floor plan was 15 x 14 m (49 x 46 feet). What size is the current one?
I think there is simply too little space on the ground floor for the kitchen, dining room, living room, bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, and utility room. In my opinion, living or sleeping areas need to be placed upstairs. I would put the bedroom upstairs and make the living room a separate room. If you really want to move downstairs later, you can just convert the living room into a bedroom. Having two bathrooms with showers can’t hurt, especially for children and future grandchildren.
If you have two teenage children now, you are probably not even 50 years old yet, right? That means you can probably still manage the stairs for another 30 years.
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neo-sciliar24 Jul 2020 15:58Würfel* schrieb:
Could you please upload the original floor plan from the designer with dimensions, and switch the upper floor (UF) to become the new ground floor (GF)?
I also don’t fully understand how the house fits within the building boundary. You want a double carport on the east side, right? How many meters remain for the house width then? According to the plan on page 1, the building boundary depth is 13 meters (43 feet), but your first floor plan measured 15 x 14 meters (49 x 46 feet). What are the current dimensions?
In my opinion, there is simply too little space on the ground floor for kitchen, dining room, living room, bedroom, dressing area, bathroom, and utility room. Living and sleeping areas should be upstairs. I would put the bedroom upstairs and create a separate living room. If you later want to move downstairs, you can turn the living room into a bedroom. Having two bathrooms with showers is definitely an advantage for children and future grandchildren.
If you currently have two teenage children, you’re probably under 50 years old, right? Meaning you can likely manage stairs for another 30 years.Hi,Attached are the current sketches. I don’t yet have a designer’s drawing – this came out of a Skype session. We will meet on Tuesday to plan in more detail.
The house is currently 13 meters (43 feet) wide and 10 meters (33 feet) deep, plus 2 meters (7 feet) in the bay window.
At least one of the children wants to stay in the area. So it’s possible that a separate apartment will be created upstairs fairly soon where they can live with their family.
Regards, Andreas
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pagoni202024 Jul 2020 19:48neo-sciliar schrieb:
Hi,
attached are the current drafts. I don’t have a professional planner’s drawing yet – this was created during a Skype session. On Tuesday, we will meet to plan in more detail.
The house is currently 13 meters (43 feet) wide and 10 meters (33 feet) deep, plus 2 meters (7 feet) for the bay window.
At least one of the children wants to stay in the area. If so, a separate apartment will likely be added upstairs fairly quickly for them to live there with their family.
Best regards, Andreas That would turn it into a two-family house or a house with a permanent granny flat, which would be a significant change to the plan.
I can’t give you a specific suggestion because this constant changing is confusing me.
1. Living room with TV and office upstairs for you.
2. Bedroom upstairs for you.
3. The upper floor is supposed to become a separate apartment, where the kids, who (I quote) hopefully will move out soon, suddenly get their own apartment. By the way, with windows in the bedrooms facing the parents’ living and dining room.
You really need to first think about how you want to use YOUR house now and in the near future. What happens in 30 years doesn’t matter to anyone today. Maybe you’ll build new then or you’ll have to renovate anyway and can remodel at that time.
If it were my plot, I would use the north and east sides much better (for example for the bedroom and bathroom, possibly also for the living room), because you have a beautiful quiet forest right outside there. Towards the west, where the neighbor’s property is, and towards the south, where the street and other houses are opposite, you can arrange spaces like the kitchen and dining room well. And the kids’ rooms. I would plant tall evergreen plants in front of the transformer station and not orient rooms towards it. I would place the entrance more to the side and try turning the staircase (but only if it’s not going to be a two-family house!). In all your floor plans, you come in at the bottom right corner and then snake along very long corridors towards the upper left.
So once you clearly know how the house will be used and where you want to sleep, shower, watch TV and work, let us know. Then maybe there will be a concrete suggestion.
1. Living room with TV and office upstairs for you.
2. Bedroom upstairs for you.
3. The upper floor is supposed to become a separate apartment, where the kids, who (I quote) hopefully will move out soon, suddenly get their own apartment. By the way, with windows in the bedrooms facing the parents’ living and dining room.
You really need to first think about how you want to use YOUR house now and in the near future. What happens in 30 years doesn’t matter to anyone today. Maybe you’ll build new then or you’ll have to renovate anyway and can remodel at that time.
If it were my plot, I would use the north and east sides much better (for example for the bedroom and bathroom, possibly also for the living room), because you have a beautiful quiet forest right outside there. Towards the west, where the neighbor’s property is, and towards the south, where the street and other houses are opposite, you can arrange spaces like the kitchen and dining room well. And the kids’ rooms. I would plant tall evergreen plants in front of the transformer station and not orient rooms towards it. I would place the entrance more to the side and try turning the staircase (but only if it’s not going to be a two-family house!). In all your floor plans, you come in at the bottom right corner and then snake along very long corridors towards the upper left.
So once you clearly know how the house will be used and where you want to sleep, shower, watch TV and work, let us know. Then maybe there will be a concrete suggestion.
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