Hello everyone,
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas


We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
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neo-sciliar23 Jul 2020 11:19pagoni2020 schrieb:
That’s fine.
Of course, place your door wherever YOU want – but WHY is it unfortunate? Honestly, I’m really curious about that! Therefore, I don’t think I have anything more meaningful to add. Except for what your children criticized.Hi,the thing with the children was misunderstood – they basically criticize everything the parents do. The house itself doesn’t really matter to them.
Why is it unfortunate? Because placing the door into the corner of the walk-in closet removes the possibility of installing a built-in wardrobe both in the hallway and inside the closet. Efficient use of space is the most important factor.
Our situation is different at this point:
- Currently, our bathroom does not even have a lock.
- The guest toilet is mainly used for major needs; the bathroom toilet is only used for quick access at night or before showering.
- No one here minds if someone enters the bathroom while another is showering.
- The door to the walk-in closet usually means this path about 80% of the time: into the closet, then to the right into the bathroom, back into the closet, and finally into the bedroom. Admittedly, sometimes you just go straight into the closet to change clothes. Mathematically, the diagonal path through the bathroom is actually shorter than going around the corner through the closet door.
And: you are definitely making a valuable contribution here because you encourage people to think. Thank you for that.
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pagoni202023 Jul 2020 11:31neo-sciliar schrieb:
And: you are definitely making a valuable contribution here because you stimulate thoughtful discussion. Thank you for that. That’s certainly encouraging, as I don’t want to upset you but rather contribute to avoiding major mistakes—ones you or others may have made similarly.
I can’t quite understand the wardrobe setup, but that need is individual, so it’s “justified.” However, forcing that justification with your walk-through bathroom and an “enclosed” bedroom, for which you’re planning an emergency exit door in the dressing area because you expect to use it at some point (otherwise you wouldn’t plan for it), is something I, as an architect, would refuse to draw. A qualified architect can implement your wardrobe requirements without resorting to a clumsy solution like a bathroom/bedroom combination with an emergency exit door. I can already see you running around the house in pajamas someday—so... there is a better way! I like some of the layouts shared by other users, and also a timber house that was recommended to you here.
Your approach will probably never appeal to me, but it doesn’t have to. I’m not necessarily keen on mainstream solutions and love individuality. However, the floor plan MUST work functionally.
Additionally, as I’m approaching an age where I want to free myself from the necessities related to children—they should also be free from parental constraints—I feel there is too much focus on that and not enough on free, special living for two people, which is after all the purpose of your new build.
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pagoni202023 Jul 2020 11:32Ideensucher schrieb:
The place is 135sqm (1450 sq ft), you previously mentioned a planned 180sqm (1938 sq ft). No wonder the 400 model looks a bit tighter. It was just to show that with a bungalow you can have everything on one level without needing to build 180sqm (1938 sq ft).
No guest bedroom? I see two kids’ rooms there.
A little fun fact: rooms called kids’ rooms can easily be converted into home offices, Weberhaus doesn’t care much about that.
“The room is huge,” so that’s why I suggested moving the two kitchen units 120cm (47 inches) apart and then adding a wall behind the right unit. That way, you get quiet in the living room. And you can simply place the TV somewhere else.
And yes, it is a bit awkwardly shaped. Just straighten the exterior walls and you’ll get rid of that unevenness.
Swap the WC and utility room, done. That would, for example, be a really, really good basis!
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neo-sciliar23 Jul 2020 11:41pagoni2020 schrieb:
THAT would actually be a very, very good basis!It’s interesting that I don’t like that at all. But taste is subjective. Therefore, I’ll try to stick to factual arguments.P
pagoni202023 Jul 2020 11:51As I said, I really can’t relate to that, so I’m not the best person to give advice. Have fun…..
If the door in the walk-in closet makes you unhappy, then do it differently.
First and foremost, you build for yourselves. It’s just that in case of reselling, it might be a bit more difficult (unless the buyer thinks the same way as you do). But I assume you are aware of that.
First and foremost, you build for yourselves. It’s just that in case of reselling, it might be a bit more difficult (unless the buyer thinks the same way as you do). But I assume you are aware of that.
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