ᐅ Comments and feedback on the floor plan layout are welcome.

Why don’t you make the entrance to the master area through the walk-in closet? This way, there is only one door to the bathroom, and no one has to wait in front of the bathroom (for example, while someone is showering) to get to the walk-in closet or the bedroom.

Your living room corner is smaller than a small kitchen. Have you actually measured this in real life?

Best regards
Sabine

I actually prefer the bathroom layout in your revised plan #144, as it at least allows the toilet to be separated by a sliding door. I still find the "access to the bedroom through the bathroom" design unusual, but it’s easier to imagine. In my opinion, it’s still impractical, but I understand you’ve analyzed your routines (does ironing and putting away laundry, forgetting things in the closet, tidying up the bedroom, etc., really only make up 5% of your movements?).

I also find the TV room on the upper floor inconvenient. On the bright side, you’ll stay fit since you have to go downstairs to the kitchen for every bowl of popcorn or drink, then back upstairs, and back down again to return everything. Since you have teenagers, I can already picture a lot of dirty dishes piled up in a corner upstairs.

neo-sciliar schrieb:

Now there is more hallway space, but visitors no longer have to go through the kitchen.

I really don’t understand that. The open-plan kitchen/living area is so important to you, and guests still sit right next to the kitchen anyway. So why make such a detour around the corner? The hallway ends openly in the kitchen/living area, yet the kitchen has a door... it seems a bit odd. Or do guests only go upstairs!?

As some inspiration, I’d recommend checking out jagras home on Instagram. She has, in my opinion, a really great house that is a bit unusual as well (TV area spatially separated from the living/dining room, walk-in closet in the bathroom...). Your design still doesn’t feel fully cohesive.

I completely agree with borxx’s post. The TV room feels very uncomfortable and narrow.

I would place the kitchen differently. It somehow gets in the way, making the hallway feel like a maze. I can’t imagine anyone using the outer bypass to get to the living room.

I’m wondering if the parents’ bedrooms with different depths actually feel as chaotic in real life as they do in the top-down view. I would also choose the entrance through the walk-in closet.

I’m not really happy with this. Was this a proposal from an architect or from you?

Hello everyone, this is the planner’s draft from the house manufacturer. We are currently reconsidering the concept of having the bedrooms downstairs and the living room upstairs. Nevertheless, I want to share my thoughts here, as it seems to confuse many (yes, it is unusual). The standard layout has all the bedrooms upstairs, with the living room/dining area/kitchen downstairs. This means the stairs are used multiple times a day: getting up, showering in between (there might be a shower downstairs, but clothes are upstairs), changing clothes, carrying laundry up after drying, going to bed. A nap in the afternoon would be added to that. In “my” version, the criticism is about having to go upstairs to watch TV and then come back down again. All other trips are eliminated since laundry is done entirely downstairs. The living room downstairs (we call it a sitting area) is really only meant for sitting briefly, watching the daily news or something similar. That’s why it is so small. Does that make sense? As I mentioned, we are still reconsidering it… My basic principle in life: don’t accept something just because everyone else does. I question everything. It doesn’t have to be right just because it has always been done that way (if that were always true, we’d all still be riding horses across the prairie today…)

We also don’t like the flow downstairs with the kitchen. I’m looking forward to suggestions for improvement here.

We also questioned whether the bathroom door should be in the bathroom or in the walk-in closet. Ultimately, we decided on the bathroom door so there would be more space in the walk-in closet and room to place a cabinet in the hallway by the kitchen.

Good luck, Andreas

neo-sciliar schrieb:

My basic principle in life: never accept something just because everyone else does. I question everything. It doesn’t have to be right just because it’s always been done that way (if that were always true, we’d all still be riding horses across the prairie today…)

I completely agree with you, but at the same time, one should also be critical of oneself—whether one is doing something differently just to be different or to avoid being mainstream or conforming. I’ve caught myself doing that several times, so I’m always grateful for new perspectives, even if they don’t always align with my latest ideas.
I question many of the so-called “must-haves” that are commonly mentioned these days, because I have always adapted myself to living comfortably with what I have known. That’s why I’m often surprised that despite the increasingly diverse possibilities, there seems to be more and more standardization happening, which is precisely the opposite of diversity.
Still, there are sensible insights and guidelines for certain things that should definitely be followed to avoid ending up with a quirky-looking house that you won’t like yourself over time.
What kind of house will it be then? Are you going with Stommel Haus again?
Please share the drawn plan. From what I see and from the previous “critiques” I’ve read, I get the impression once again that YOU basically made or dictated the plan, and the architect just redrew it so as not to contradict you. But I think an architect should take a different stance, and you should definitely allow that.

pagoni2020 schrieb:

I completely agree with you, but you should also be critical of yourself to see if you’re doing something differently just to be different or to avoid being mainstream or conventional. I have caught myself doing that quite often, so I am always grateful for suggestions that make me think, even if they sometimes don’t fit my latest ideas.

I question many of these so-called must-haves these days, because I have always lived comfortably by adapting myself as well. That’s why I’m often surprised that despite the widest range of options now available, there is simultaneously an increasing conformity, which is actually the opposite of diversity.

Still, there are sensible insights and guidelines to consider for certain things to avoid ending up with a house that looks odd or feels wrong over time.

What kind of house will it be now? Are you still going with Stommel Haus?

Please share the drawn plan. From what I can see and what I have read from previous “critiques,” I get the impression again that YOU basically made or dictated the plan and the architect just traced it to avoid contradicting you. I believe an architect should take a different stance and you should definitely allow that.

Hello,

yes, I’m here to get ideas and to question myself.......

Attached are the plans from the Stommel Haus planner (not an architect yet, but as far as I understand, he is only responsible for structural calculations and the building permit/planning permission, not the layout). We gave a few basic requirements, and he drew the plans.

Ground floor

Upper floor