ᐅ Cold district heating with ground source heat pump

Created on: 25 Feb 2021 21:16
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DaniMartinez
Hello everyone,

I hope you can help me. In our development area, there will be a cold local heating network, where the energy provider supplies the heat pump in the house through deep drilling and a connected ring main network.

We have been considering integrating a photovoltaic system to use the self-generated electricity to power the heat pump. So far, so good! Today we received a letter from the energy provider stating that, for billing reasons, it is not possible to use the self-generated electricity for the heat pump.

Here is the original wording:
“As you have correctly understood, for billing reasons it is not feasible to register self-generated electricity from a photovoltaic system. By feeding it into the system through us, there would additionally be the disadvantage that the full Renewable Energy Act surcharge would apply to all electricity, so the benefit of self-generated electricity would no longer be fully realized.”

Has anyone heard of something similar? Is it really not possible?

If that is the case, a photovoltaic system almost doesn’t make sense anymore. The contract conditions do not state anywhere that self-generated electricity cannot be used for the heat pump.

Thank you very much in advance!
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BananaJoe
28 Feb 2021 10:17
MayrCh schrieb:

This is often also stated in municipal regulations.
Or there as well. My point was just to find out if there is any alternative to participating at all. Otherwise, the discussion about whether to participate or not, when wanting to use photovoltaic systems, is not very productive.
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DaniMartinez
28 Feb 2021 11:07
MayrCh schrieb:

This is often also included in municipal regulations. For these kinds of cold networks in new housing developments, a certain (quite high) connection rate is needed for the network to be economically viable and accessible. Usually, connection requirements are enforced. If you don’t want that, you simply shouldn’t buy property in the new development.

The heat pump is not your property. Therefore, you have no rights to control the unit or its energy supply.

Yes.

Ownership comes with obligations. If you are not the owner, you don’t have to worry about anything. However, it still has to be paid for.

Okay, I see now. Then this has nothing to do with a sustainable and innovative project, but is just a product to fill the pockets of the energy supplier!
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nordanney
28 Feb 2021 11:10
DaniMartinez schrieb:

Okay, I see now that this has nothing to do with a sustainable and innovative project, but is just a product to fill the energy provider’s pockets!!

It’s a bit of both ;-)

But your offer isn’t really overpriced. Don’t get worked up about it.
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DaniMartinez
28 Feb 2021 11:27
nordanney schrieb:

It’s a bit of both ;-)

But your offer isn’t really overpriced. Don’t get worked up about it.

No, I don’t want to do that... It’s just frustrating that we, as homeowners, and the municipality were misled, since the energy provider even confirmed during the information session, when asked, that you can operate the heat pump with your own electricity!
When I told the head of the building authority that this isn’t possible, he had assumed that it was!
How much would my own drilling plus heat pump and connection cost? I’m looking at about 17,000–25,000 euros (18,000–27,000 dollars), right?
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Zaba12
28 Feb 2021 11:27
DaniMartinez schrieb:

Neither the purchase agreement nor the development plan mentions anything about this, so there is no obligation to do it!!
And the 16% thing is really unprofessional!!

So, the question is still not resolved whether you have to do it or not. Whether the acceptance contract is fair, reasonable, or outright exploitation doesn’t matter.
If you agree to it, you are bound by the conditions and price increases.
While others are looking toward an independent future with heat pumps + solar panels + home electricity + battery storage, only paying about 60–70€ total monthly house consumption from the grid, you are stuck with arbitrary electricity prices for the heat pump you don’t even own.

Clarify if it is mandatory. If yes and you want the plot, swallow the bitter pill. If not, aim for independence.

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