ᐅ Classic single-family house, 200 sqm (plus basement) – any tips?
Created on: 7 Feb 2021 08:37
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MucBauherr
Hello forum,
After some time of quietly reading along, the time has finally come to post our first drafts for our house here. Overall, we are quite satisfied with the designs, especially the ground floor. But that’s exactly the problem: we no longer see any alternatives and would therefore really appreciate if the forum could critically review the drafts without holding back. I will also try to keep updating here as the house construction, which is just starting, progresses. Many thanks and best regards from Bavaria.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 727 sqm (7,823 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.10–0.24
Plot ratio: 0.38
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 9 meters (30 ft) from the street (north side); does not apply to garages
Edge development: Outbuildings (garages)
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors:
Roof shape:
Style:
Orientation: southwest
Maximum heights / limits: n/a
Other requirements: Buildability according to § 34 Building Code; according to the building authority, the designs can be realized without problems.
Owner Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic detached single-family house with gable roof.
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + attic (2 full stories)
Number of occupants, ages: three persons: 32, 30, 2 (+0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) plus
Office: family use or home office?: possibility for home office for 2 people
Overnight guests per year: 20
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern style: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats: at least 6
Fireplace: yes (currently missing in the plan; intended to be installed in the living room between the two large window panels)
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes (we don’t like the current balcony design; might plan a “shorter” upper floor and use the gained space for a balcony instead)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, also reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Designed by: architect
What do you particularly like? Why?: We really like the ground floor with the large window areas facing south.
What do you not like? Why?: undecided on the upper floor; possibly too crowded?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 800,000
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: max. 1,000,000 (then including landscaping)
Preferred heating technology: not defined; personally, I am not a fan of air-to-water heat pumps.
If you have to give up certain details or fittings:
-can give up: basement atrium, finishing the basement bathroom now, wood/aluminum windows, the huge terrace, southern window sections made up of individual glass panels
-can’t give up: the overall size
Why has the design turned out as it is now? e.g.
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Based on a room program we provided to the architect in advance.
A mix of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think is particularly good or bad about it? Possibly missing a certain “extra.”
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters:
1. Is the architect’s price estimate roughly realistic?
2. Are there fundamental issues you think won’t work?
3. How could we loosen up the design a bit more?
PS: The furniture in the plans is still somewhat randomly placed. Nothing is final yet. Also, some windows are missing or are currently in the wrong places and are oversized.
Looking forward to your feedback. I will try to answer the questions in more detail especially over the weekend.
Best regards from Bavaria!
After some time of quietly reading along, the time has finally come to post our first drafts for our house here. Overall, we are quite satisfied with the designs, especially the ground floor. But that’s exactly the problem: we no longer see any alternatives and would therefore really appreciate if the forum could critically review the drafts without holding back. I will also try to keep updating here as the house construction, which is just starting, progresses. Many thanks and best regards from Bavaria.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 727 sqm (7,823 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.10–0.24
Plot ratio: 0.38
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 9 meters (30 ft) from the street (north side); does not apply to garages
Edge development: Outbuildings (garages)
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors:
Roof shape:
Style:
Orientation: southwest
Maximum heights / limits: n/a
Other requirements: Buildability according to § 34 Building Code; according to the building authority, the designs can be realized without problems.
Owner Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic detached single-family house with gable roof.
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + attic (2 full stories)
Number of occupants, ages: three persons: 32, 30, 2 (+0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) plus
Office: family use or home office?: possibility for home office for 2 people
Overnight guests per year: 20
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern style: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats: at least 6
Fireplace: yes (currently missing in the plan; intended to be installed in the living room between the two large window panels)
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes (we don’t like the current balcony design; might plan a “shorter” upper floor and use the gained space for a balcony instead)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, also reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Designed by: architect
What do you particularly like? Why?: We really like the ground floor with the large window areas facing south.
What do you not like? Why?: undecided on the upper floor; possibly too crowded?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 800,000
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: max. 1,000,000 (then including landscaping)
Preferred heating technology: not defined; personally, I am not a fan of air-to-water heat pumps.
If you have to give up certain details or fittings:
-can give up: basement atrium, finishing the basement bathroom now, wood/aluminum windows, the huge terrace, southern window sections made up of individual glass panels
-can’t give up: the overall size
Why has the design turned out as it is now? e.g.
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Based on a room program we provided to the architect in advance.
A mix of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think is particularly good or bad about it? Possibly missing a certain “extra.”
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters:
1. Is the architect’s price estimate roughly realistic?
2. Are there fundamental issues you think won’t work?
3. How could we loosen up the design a bit more?
PS: The furniture in the plans is still somewhat randomly placed. Nothing is final yet. Also, some windows are missing or are currently in the wrong places and are oversized.
Looking forward to your feedback. I will try to answer the questions in more detail especially over the weekend.
Best regards from Bavaria!
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MucBauherr7 Feb 2021 19:2211ant schrieb:
You hadn't mentioned that those are the ones the architect is reading.Now I know where the confusion comes from. The wording is still from the questionnaire itself. I didn't delete it. I am actually a complete novice in this regard.P
Pfalzpaulianer7 Feb 2021 19:25Hi,
I find your design really impressive. I can especially imagine the wellness area in the basement living space very well. The atrium would certainly be very useful for this. I also really like the spacious open-plan room! Great design!
One idea to structure the living space: you could place a room divider fireplace to the right of the living room door. This way, the areas would be more separated, and you could see the stove/fireplace both from the dining area and the living room. However, I can’t tell how much space there is to the right of the door. Is it more than 4 meters (13 feet)?
I find your design really impressive. I can especially imagine the wellness area in the basement living space very well. The atrium would certainly be very useful for this. I also really like the spacious open-plan room! Great design!
One idea to structure the living space: you could place a room divider fireplace to the right of the living room door. This way, the areas would be more separated, and you could see the stove/fireplace both from the dining area and the living room. However, I can’t tell how much space there is to the right of the door. Is it more than 4 meters (13 feet)?
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MucBauherr7 Feb 2021 19:29Pfalzpaulianer schrieb:
Hi,
I really like your design. Especially the wellness area in the basement living space—I can already picture it well. The atrium would definitely be very useful for this. The spacious open-plan area is also very appealing! Great design!
One idea to structure the living space: you could place a room-dividing fireplace to the right of the living room door. This would separate the areas a bit more, and you could enjoy the stove/fireplace from both the dining area and the living room. However, I can’t tell how much space there is to the right of the door. More than 4 meters (13 feet)? The fireplace in the corner was also considered. Unfortunately, there are just under 4 meters (13 feet) to the right of the door... Surely something will be found. I think the bigger problem during the day is the upper floor.
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Pfalzpaulianer7 Feb 2021 19:53MucBauherr schrieb:
I hope my grandchildren won’t want to live with their grandparents, but joking aside. I see the problem the same way, even though the overall temperature issue is addressed by climate control in the house. Nevertheless, I would also prefer the rooms to face north. The architect needs to take another look at that...
Thank you very much for the constructive criticism Hmm, I’ve been thinking about this the whole time, but when I look at our three children, they don’t care at all about the orientation of the rooms. You could also argue that the south-facing location will be much less appreciated by the children over the years they live in the house. For example, our teenager almost never stands by the window to enjoy the view. The other two kids don’t either—they might just occasionally raise the blinds. 🙂 I, on the other hand, would enjoy it every day. However, I can’t really judge where the prime location is regarding the view. You need to decide that yourselves. From my gut feeling, I would keep the room layout as it is if you at least somewhat appreciate the south-facing orientation. Your children probably won’t, and if warm children’s rooms become an issue, they will likely complain about that much sooner.
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MucBauherr7 Feb 2021 19:57Pfalzpaulianer schrieb:
Hmm, I’ve been thinking about this for a while, but when I look at our three kids, they really don’t care about the orientation of the rooms. You could also argue that a south-facing position is much less appreciated by children during the years they live in the house. For example, our teenager hardly ever stands by the window to enjoy the view. The two younger ones don’t either—they barely manage to raise the blinds. 🙂 For me, on the other hand, I would enjoy it every day. However, I can’t judge where the best view is from your place. You’ll have to decide that for yourselves. Based on my gut feeling, I’d keep the room layout as it is if you value having a south-facing position at all. Your children probably won’t appreciate it and might complain more about having warm bedrooms if that’s an issue. The prime location is definitely facing south. I completely understand your thoughts. I just have to think back to my own childhood and youth. I probably wouldn’t have even known which direction my room faced 😀 Unfortunately, the issue with the bathroom drainage remains.
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BauherrFranken7 Feb 2021 19:59Is the price per million with or without the land?
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