ᐅ Classic single-family house, 200 sqm (plus basement) – any tips?
Created on: 7 Feb 2021 08:37
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MucBauherr7 Feb 2021 08:37Hello forum,
After some time of quietly reading along, the time has finally come to post our first drafts for our house here. Overall, we are quite satisfied with the designs, especially the ground floor. But that’s exactly the problem: we no longer see any alternatives and would therefore really appreciate if the forum could critically review the drafts without holding back. I will also try to keep updating here as the house construction, which is just starting, progresses. Many thanks and best regards from Bavaria.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 727 sqm (7,823 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.10–0.24
Plot ratio: 0.38
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 9 meters (30 ft) from the street (north side); does not apply to garages
Edge development: Outbuildings (garages)
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors:
Roof shape:
Style:
Orientation: southwest
Maximum heights / limits: n/a
Other requirements: Buildability according to § 34 Building Code; according to the building authority, the designs can be realized without problems.
Owner Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic detached single-family house with gable roof.
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + attic (2 full stories)
Number of occupants, ages: three persons: 32, 30, 2 (+0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) plus
Office: family use or home office?: possibility for home office for 2 people
Overnight guests per year: 20
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern style: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats: at least 6
Fireplace: yes (currently missing in the plan; intended to be installed in the living room between the two large window panels)
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes (we don’t like the current balcony design; might plan a “shorter” upper floor and use the gained space for a balcony instead)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, also reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Designed by: architect
What do you particularly like? Why?: We really like the ground floor with the large window areas facing south.
What do you not like? Why?: undecided on the upper floor; possibly too crowded?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 800,000
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: max. 1,000,000 (then including landscaping)
Preferred heating technology: not defined; personally, I am not a fan of air-to-water heat pumps.
If you have to give up certain details or fittings:
-can give up: basement atrium, finishing the basement bathroom now, wood/aluminum windows, the huge terrace, southern window sections made up of individual glass panels
-can’t give up: the overall size
Why has the design turned out as it is now? e.g.
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Based on a room program we provided to the architect in advance.
A mix of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think is particularly good or bad about it? Possibly missing a certain “extra.”
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters:
1. Is the architect’s price estimate roughly realistic?
2. Are there fundamental issues you think won’t work?
3. How could we loosen up the design a bit more?
PS: The furniture in the plans is still somewhat randomly placed. Nothing is final yet. Also, some windows are missing or are currently in the wrong places and are oversized.
Looking forward to your feedback. I will try to answer the questions in more detail especially over the weekend.
Best regards from Bavaria!
After some time of quietly reading along, the time has finally come to post our first drafts for our house here. Overall, we are quite satisfied with the designs, especially the ground floor. But that’s exactly the problem: we no longer see any alternatives and would therefore really appreciate if the forum could critically review the drafts without holding back. I will also try to keep updating here as the house construction, which is just starting, progresses. Many thanks and best regards from Bavaria.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 727 sqm (7,823 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.10–0.24
Plot ratio: 0.38
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 9 meters (30 ft) from the street (north side); does not apply to garages
Edge development: Outbuildings (garages)
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors:
Roof shape:
Style:
Orientation: southwest
Maximum heights / limits: n/a
Other requirements: Buildability according to § 34 Building Code; according to the building authority, the designs can be realized without problems.
Owner Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic detached single-family house with gable roof.
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + attic (2 full stories)
Number of occupants, ages: three persons: 32, 30, 2 (+0)
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) plus
Office: family use or home office?: possibility for home office for 2 people
Overnight guests per year: 20
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern style: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats: at least 6
Fireplace: yes (currently missing in the plan; intended to be installed in the living room between the two large window panels)
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes (we don’t like the current balcony design; might plan a “shorter” upper floor and use the gained space for a balcony instead)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routines, also reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Designed by: architect
What do you particularly like? Why?: We really like the ground floor with the large window areas facing south.
What do you not like? Why?: undecided on the upper floor; possibly too crowded?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 800,000
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: max. 1,000,000 (then including landscaping)
Preferred heating technology: not defined; personally, I am not a fan of air-to-water heat pumps.
If you have to give up certain details or fittings:
-can give up: basement atrium, finishing the basement bathroom now, wood/aluminum windows, the huge terrace, southern window sections made up of individual glass panels
-can’t give up: the overall size
Why has the design turned out as it is now? e.g.
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Based on a room program we provided to the architect in advance.
A mix of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think is particularly good or bad about it? Possibly missing a certain “extra.”
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters:
1. Is the architect’s price estimate roughly realistic?
2. Are there fundamental issues you think won’t work?
3. How could we loosen up the design a bit more?
PS: The furniture in the plans is still somewhat randomly placed. Nothing is final yet. Also, some windows are missing or are currently in the wrong places and are oversized.
Looking forward to your feedback. I will try to answer the questions in more detail especially over the weekend.
Best regards from Bavaria!
hm .... what immediately caught my attention ... staircase with 15 risers at 25 x 19 cm (10 x 7.5 inches) ... = floor-to-floor height of 285 cm (112 inches) = finished ceiling height around 250 cm (98 inches) and that in a room over 60 sqm (646 sq ft) ... that seems too low to me.
Next ... on the upper floor you give 10 m (33 ft) of wardrobe space, a bed, and a bathroom the nice sunny side and 50 sqm (538 sq ft) of living area. Child 1 only has north-facing windows ... are children 2 and 3 still planned or are those already alternatives for a study/guest room?
Children’s bathroom ... I would reconsider the layout there carefully.
Ground floor - living room ... if a fireplace is added to the south wall section, the area around the dining table will become less spacious. The kitchen layout should be reconsidered; the pantry with a rough construction depth of 120 cm (47 inches) is unusable for any external fridge/freezer units.
Huge hallway, but ultimately only about 150 cm (59 inches) of effective wardrobe corner space.
Office ... if two people are working from home, I would prefer planning two smaller rooms rather than two working in one room. Phone meetings, etc., are simply easier to conduct quietly that way.
Next ... on the upper floor you give 10 m (33 ft) of wardrobe space, a bed, and a bathroom the nice sunny side and 50 sqm (538 sq ft) of living area. Child 1 only has north-facing windows ... are children 2 and 3 still planned or are those already alternatives for a study/guest room?
Children’s bathroom ... I would reconsider the layout there carefully.
Ground floor - living room ... if a fireplace is added to the south wall section, the area around the dining table will become less spacious. The kitchen layout should be reconsidered; the pantry with a rough construction depth of 120 cm (47 inches) is unusable for any external fridge/freezer units.
Huge hallway, but ultimately only about 150 cm (59 inches) of effective wardrobe corner space.
Office ... if two people are working from home, I would prefer planning two smaller rooms rather than two working in one room. Phone meetings, etc., are simply easier to conduct quietly that way.
Is this going to be a two-story building without sloped ceilings on the top floor? I’m too lazy to add it up: how much is the footprint and how much is the living area?
What about the flexible floor area ratio? Lower value for the house, higher value for auxiliary buildings? Has that been strictly ignored?
What does the surrounding area look like? What kind of houses are there?
Regarding the design: nicely spacious 😉 To me, the open-plan area lacks structure. It feels more like a hall and could cause acoustic issues between the kitchen and TV area.
On the upper floor, I would also consider the room layout more carefully – there seems to be an imbalance.
As for the interior, there’s nothing to say yet if the window positions aren’t even fixed...
On the ground floor, make sure that a patio door remains easily accessible and is not blocked by furniture like the dining table.
What about the flexible floor area ratio? Lower value for the house, higher value for auxiliary buildings? Has that been strictly ignored?
What does the surrounding area look like? What kind of houses are there?
Regarding the design: nicely spacious 😉 To me, the open-plan area lacks structure. It feels more like a hall and could cause acoustic issues between the kitchen and TV area.
On the upper floor, I would also consider the room layout more carefully – there seems to be an imbalance.
As for the interior, there’s nothing to say yet if the window positions aren’t even fixed...
On the ground floor, make sure that a patio door remains easily accessible and is not blocked by furniture like the dining table.
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motorradsilke7 Feb 2021 10:34I would definitely plan for a direct access from the garage as well.
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MucBauherr7 Feb 2021 10:40Hello, thanks for the answers!
- Room height will be adjusted
- One more child will definitely come
- Kitchen is planned with tall cabinets facing the pantry (with a hidden passage). Otherwise, kitchen island in front and sink on the side
- Kitchen is planned with tall cabinets facing the pantry (with a hidden passage). Otherwise, kitchen island in front and sink on the side
- Dining room is roughly 4 x 4 meters (13 x 13 feet). Is that too small?
- Children’s rooms upstairs will be larger. We will reduce space especially from the bathroom and walk-in closet. The orientation should remain the same. Of course, it would be better if the children’s rooms faced south, but it is our house and children eventually move out.
- How could the open-plan living area (living room) be better organized?
- The footprint is about 11 by 13 meters (36 by 43 feet)
- Surroundings are all detached houses with two full floors (floor area ratios vary due to different houses and lots with these values. The dimensions exactly match what is currently on the plot but will have to be demolished. As a layperson, I cannot say more about this.)
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MucBauherr7 Feb 2021 10:56One more note: The house will be built with 2 full stories. An exposed roof structure is not currently planned. This also depends on the roof pitch.
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