ᐅ Civil engineer calculates excavator performance based on tons – any experiences?
Created on: 7 Aug 2021 00:20
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NeuerBauherrHE
Hello dear forum,
Today we received a quote from the civil engineer for the excavation work.
His task is to load the soil onto articulated trucks, which will be provided by the landfill.
Instead of charging for labor as usual, the civil engineer charges €5 per ton of soil.
In our case, that amounts to 1000 tons, so €5000 plus VAT.
This seems very expensive to us, considering he plans to operate the excavator for only two days.
From my research online, excavator rental and operator costs usually max out at around €1000 per day.
Therefore, we are wondering whether he is making additional profit from our soil or if the €5/ton or €5000 fee is justified?
Today we received a quote from the civil engineer for the excavation work.
His task is to load the soil onto articulated trucks, which will be provided by the landfill.
Instead of charging for labor as usual, the civil engineer charges €5 per ton of soil.
In our case, that amounts to 1000 tons, so €5000 plus VAT.
This seems very expensive to us, considering he plans to operate the excavator for only two days.
From my research online, excavator rental and operator costs usually max out at around €1000 per day.
Therefore, we are wondering whether he is making additional profit from our soil or if the €5/ton or €5000 fee is justified?
NeuerBauherrHE schrieb:
So, these are the quotes I received (excluding VAT):
1.) €17/ton -> Transport included, cannot maintain a high delivery frequency.
2.) €25/ton -> Transport included, can maintain a high delivery frequency.
3.) €31/ton -> Quote from the civil engineer, who transports the soil to option 2.
We estimate about 1000 tons (1,100 tons).
The additional charge of €6/ton for loading into the trucks is annoying and could have been accounted for in the cost estimate.
It feels like we’re paying the civil engineer almost double.
We are considering delaying the construction by two weeks and having most of the work done by a friendly excavator operator.If that’s a realistic option, definitely go for it!We excavated our building pit ourselves two weeks ago, removing 500 tons. We rented a 13t (ton) excavator including diesel for 2 days at a gross cost of €1100.
You would still need to add the hourly labor rate * 8 hours * 2 days to get the total expected cost.
Note that we managed both excavation and setup in two days, so realistically, only excavation should take two days for you.
You would still need to add the hourly labor rate * 8 hours * 2 days to get the total expected cost.
Note that we managed both excavation and setup in two days, so realistically, only excavation should take two days for you.
I also consider the price to be a rip-off and recommend looking for alternatives.
We paid a maximum of 25 EUR per CUBIC meter, including excavation, hauling, and disposal. That was relatively cheap, but there were comparable alternatives as well. At the same time, there were offers at the price level you mentioned 🙁
Rip-off artists.
We paid a maximum of 25 EUR per CUBIC meter, including excavation, hauling, and disposal. That was relatively cheap, but there were comparable alternatives as well. At the same time, there were offers at the price level you mentioned 🙁
Rip-off artists.
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NeuerBauherrHE14 Sep 2021 18:36We have now stopped the excavation at the final stage. One meter (3 feet) below street level, the general contractor takes over the digging.