ᐅ Urban villa of approximately 200 sqm without a basement. Please provide your feedback.
Created on: 11 Apr 2018 09:51
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mrs_bauherrin
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 587 sqm (6,316 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio
Gross floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary lines
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: no restrictions
Architectural style: urban villa
Orientation
Maximum height / restrictions – to neighbor: 0.4 m (15.7 inches) x eaves height
Other requirements: none
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa with hip roof and 2 full floors
Basement: no, floors: 2
Number of occupants: 3 (female 31, male 28, child 2)
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: approx. 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft)
Office use: family use rather than home office
Annual overnight guests: 1
Open or closed architecture: open
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen: no door between kitchen and dining area, with kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: yes, water-heated
Music/soundwall: no
Balcony: yes, roof terrace: no
Garage: yes, 1 parking space; carport: yes, 2 parking spaces
Utility garden: preferred but not yet planned, greenhouse: possibly
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for choices
Laundry room was moved to the upper floor because there is hardly any space on the ground floor and the technical room is already very tight without washer and dryer. It was important to me to be able to dry laundry directly on the balcony, at least in warm weather.
We will have a cantilevered staircase and an open space above. Access from the garage to the house was important to me. I feel there is a lack of storage space for provisions, but maybe the kitchen will be big enough since we will have a side-by-side fridge again. We rarely use canned goods.
House Design
Who planned it: architect and many personal drafts
- Builder’s planner
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Cantilevered staircase with glass railing (which means I don’t mind cleaning it), balcony with glass railing, open living-dining area with fireplace.
What do you dislike? Why? The technical room takes up so much space and bothers me, but a basement was too expensive in terms of cost-benefit.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 400,000 with 60,000 own contribution (window construction and installation, glass railing)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: see above
Preferred heating system: heat pump
Additionally, controlled mechanical ventilation, and if budget allows, some connected home technology
If You Have to Give Up Something, which details / extensions
- Can you give up? Child 1’s room is a bit too large – the bathroom might get bigger.
- Can’t give up? Large children’s rooms >16 sqm (172 sq ft), high ceiling on ground floor 2.70 m (8.86 ft), large kitchen, 2 showers in the house
Why Has the Design Turned Out Like It Has?
For example: Standard design from the planner? Initially we wanted a central T-shaped staircase, but due to lack of space it became a straight cantilevered staircase.
Which requests were implemented by the architect? All
A mix of many examples from various magazines: yes, especially the one with the red V
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? We took a long time, about 1.5 years, for the final planning
What Is the Most Important / Fundamental Question About the Floor Plan in 130 Characters or Less?
We would simply like to hear a third opinion again; often you don’t notice something that others see immediately.
What I also want to mention: Storage room = office and playroom but also with space for buckets, vacuum cleaner, etc.
The bathroom on the upper floor will be enlarged and child 1’s room slightly reduced.
Site plan is still to be created.
Plot size: 587 sqm (6,316 sq ft)
Slope: none
Floor area ratio
Gross floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary lines
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: no restrictions
Architectural style: urban villa
Orientation
Maximum height / restrictions – to neighbor: 0.4 m (15.7 inches) x eaves height
Other requirements: none
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa with hip roof and 2 full floors
Basement: no, floors: 2
Number of occupants: 3 (female 31, male 28, child 2)
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: approx. 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft)
Office use: family use rather than home office
Annual overnight guests: 1
Open or closed architecture: open
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen: no door between kitchen and dining area, with kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: yes, water-heated
Music/soundwall: no
Balcony: yes, roof terrace: no
Garage: yes, 1 parking space; carport: yes, 2 parking spaces
Utility garden: preferred but not yet planned, greenhouse: possibly
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for choices
Laundry room was moved to the upper floor because there is hardly any space on the ground floor and the technical room is already very tight without washer and dryer. It was important to me to be able to dry laundry directly on the balcony, at least in warm weather.
We will have a cantilevered staircase and an open space above. Access from the garage to the house was important to me. I feel there is a lack of storage space for provisions, but maybe the kitchen will be big enough since we will have a side-by-side fridge again. We rarely use canned goods.
House Design
Who planned it: architect and many personal drafts
- Builder’s planner
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Cantilevered staircase with glass railing (which means I don’t mind cleaning it), balcony with glass railing, open living-dining area with fireplace.
What do you dislike? Why? The technical room takes up so much space and bothers me, but a basement was too expensive in terms of cost-benefit.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 400,000 with 60,000 own contribution (window construction and installation, glass railing)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: see above
Preferred heating system: heat pump
Additionally, controlled mechanical ventilation, and if budget allows, some connected home technology
If You Have to Give Up Something, which details / extensions
- Can you give up? Child 1’s room is a bit too large – the bathroom might get bigger.
- Can’t give up? Large children’s rooms >16 sqm (172 sq ft), high ceiling on ground floor 2.70 m (8.86 ft), large kitchen, 2 showers in the house
Why Has the Design Turned Out Like It Has?
For example: Standard design from the planner? Initially we wanted a central T-shaped staircase, but due to lack of space it became a straight cantilevered staircase.
Which requests were implemented by the architect? All
A mix of many examples from various magazines: yes, especially the one with the red V
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? We took a long time, about 1.5 years, for the final planning
What Is the Most Important / Fundamental Question About the Floor Plan in 130 Characters or Less?
We would simply like to hear a third opinion again; often you don’t notice something that others see immediately.
What I also want to mention: Storage room = office and playroom but also with space for buckets, vacuum cleaner, etc.
The bathroom on the upper floor will be enlarged and child 1’s room slightly reduced.
Site plan is still to be created.
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mrs_bauherrin11 Apr 2018 12:06Thank you, Climbee, for your contribution.
About us
Yes, a second child is planned in 2-3 years.
"Storage room"
In our case, the storage room is more of a small workspace with space to store the vacuum cleaner, bucket, iron, etc. (kept inside a cabinet) and room for toys for the little ones. Also, if the baby naps during the day, they go into this room... that was the idea.
To bring in natural light, even if just a small window, we positioned this room there. Switching it with the utility room would not allow any daylight.
As much as possible, clutter will go directly to the attic. With dimensions of about 11 x 12 meters (36 x 39 feet) and a 29° (29°) roof pitch, there is plenty of space there.
Unfortunately, we decided against a basement due to the high cost of around 100,000 euros (because of groundwater issues, etc.). That money can be better invested elsewhere.
Extra room
A separate room for such purposes would be ideal, but we still lack the space. Upstairs, space is limited because of the staircase, leaving little room for another door. The children’s room should not be smaller than 15 square meters (161 square feet). :-/
Bedroom
It is sufficient for us.
Bathroom
A sauna was briefly considered, but we are not really sauna people and instead decided on a large shower possibly with a steam function (hammam).
About us
Yes, a second child is planned in 2-3 years.
"Storage room"
In our case, the storage room is more of a small workspace with space to store the vacuum cleaner, bucket, iron, etc. (kept inside a cabinet) and room for toys for the little ones. Also, if the baby naps during the day, they go into this room... that was the idea.
To bring in natural light, even if just a small window, we positioned this room there. Switching it with the utility room would not allow any daylight.
As much as possible, clutter will go directly to the attic. With dimensions of about 11 x 12 meters (36 x 39 feet) and a 29° (29°) roof pitch, there is plenty of space there.
Unfortunately, we decided against a basement due to the high cost of around 100,000 euros (because of groundwater issues, etc.). That money can be better invested elsewhere.
Extra room
A separate room for such purposes would be ideal, but we still lack the space. Upstairs, space is limited because of the staircase, leaving little room for another door. The children’s room should not be smaller than 15 square meters (161 square feet). :-/
Bedroom
It is sufficient for us.
Bathroom
A sauna was briefly considered, but we are not really sauna people and instead decided on a large shower possibly with a steam function (hammam).
Baby in the almost windowless storage room? Well, it will certainly be dark enough.
Why? It takes away the space you need for storage. And do you really want to carry your shoes back and forth between entrances? That also means double the cleaning. And just look at how Hotzenplotz is struggling now with his second entrance regarding security:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-kurz-vor-bauantragsstellung.25647/page-58#post-254836
It remains a mystery to me.
mrs_bauherrin schrieb:
Having direct access from the garage to the house was important to me.
Why? It takes away the space you need for storage. And do you really want to carry your shoes back and forth between entrances? That also means double the cleaning. And just look at how Hotzenplotz is struggling now with his second entrance regarding security:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-kurz-vor-bauantragsstellung.25647/page-58#post-254836
It remains a mystery to me.
Some rough suggestions for rearranging.
As mentioned, I have doubts about the drainage from the utility room through the living room, but I have left it as is for now. I would also move the door to the garage into the technical room, since this tiny hallway doesn’t really serve a purpose.
As mentioned, I have doubts about the drainage from the utility room through the living room, but I have left it as is for now. I would also move the door to the garage into the technical room, since this tiny hallway doesn’t really serve a purpose.
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mrs_bauherrin11 Apr 2018 13:00Thank you, Maria,
Bathroom Upstairs
On the left side, the neighbor has no windows facing us, so it’s perfect for a bathroom. On the other side, the neighbor has four windows looking directly in. Since I don’t like frosted glass windows at all and prefer using blinds when I want complete privacy, the bathroom should probably stay on the left side, even though we really like your design because it would give us an extra room.
... hmm ... is there maybe another option?
Ground Floor
We are considering removing the access from the garage to the main house. This would allow us to enlarge the shower to 100 x 90 cm (39 x 35 inches) and the utility room.
Kitchen
I’m quite attached to my large kitchen, even though it’s a bit inconvenient in terms of walking routes. I really appreciate your suggestion, though, and will review it again to see if we should move the toilet to the left.
Bathroom Upstairs
On the left side, the neighbor has no windows facing us, so it’s perfect for a bathroom. On the other side, the neighbor has four windows looking directly in. Since I don’t like frosted glass windows at all and prefer using blinds when I want complete privacy, the bathroom should probably stay on the left side, even though we really like your design because it would give us an extra room.
... hmm ... is there maybe another option?
Ground Floor
We are considering removing the access from the garage to the main house. This would allow us to enlarge the shower to 100 x 90 cm (39 x 35 inches) and the utility room.
Kitchen
I’m quite attached to my large kitchen, even though it’s a bit inconvenient in terms of walking routes. I really appreciate your suggestion, though, and will review it again to see if we should move the toilet to the left.
Do you have a large room at home where you could mark out your kitchen layout and test the walking paths in real life?
Almost 25 sqm (270 sq ft) is quite spacious—and also expensive to furnish. Considering that, the functionality might become challenging.
1st option:
If you rearrange the ground floor so that the stairs move to the other side of the hallway, you can also mirror the layout of the upper floor.
2nd option:
You could, of course, keep the bathroom in your preferred location and possibly make it a bit smaller, so there would be room for a dressing area and bedroom instead of the children’s room. You’d need to adjust the windows for the bedroom, of course.
Then you could place both children’s rooms and a small office on the other side of the house. I’m unsure whether the second children’s room would get enough natural light.
Almost 25 sqm (270 sq ft) is quite spacious—and also expensive to furnish. Considering that, the functionality might become challenging.
1st option:
If you rearrange the ground floor so that the stairs move to the other side of the hallway, you can also mirror the layout of the upper floor.
2nd option:
You could, of course, keep the bathroom in your preferred location and possibly make it a bit smaller, so there would be room for a dressing area and bedroom instead of the children’s room. You’d need to adjust the windows for the bedroom, of course.
Then you could place both children’s rooms and a small office on the other side of the house. I’m unsure whether the second children’s room would get enough natural light.
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