ᐅ Floor plan of a 160 sqm urban villa, without a basement – what are your thoughts?
Created on: 10 May 2018 02:46
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Patkia
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 626 sqm (6730 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: 0.35 + 50% for ancillary structures
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 ft), no special requirements
Edge development: permitted
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of floors: 3
Roof type: -
Architectural style: -
Orientation: -
Maximum heights / limits: 12 m (39 ft)
Additional requirements: 1 tree per every 300 sqm (3200 sq ft) started
Homeowners’ Requirements
City villa style, hip / pyramid roof
2 full stories
Residents: 2 adults, around 30 years old, 1-2 children planned
Room requirements:
Ground floor: kitchen / dining / living / pantry / guest room (office) / utility room / guest WC
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms / walk-in closet / storage / bathroom
Office: on ground floor, also to be used as guest room
Occasional overnight guests
Open or closed layout: partly open / partly closed
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island, possibly a small pantry
Minimum seating at dining table: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: home cinema area
Roof terrace: possibly planned later on garage
Garage: yes, double garage with workshop / storage area: 9 m × 6.5 m (30 ft × 21 ft) with access to the house, planned as self-built, driveway large enough for 2 cars
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
Primarily for aesthetic reasons, a small bay window should be included. Not deeper than 50 cm (20 inches) due to roof overhang. There will be a canopy over the front door as a visual relief, so the bay window should face the garden.
Ground Floor (GF):
Bright hallway,
Large kitchen with island (including seating, e.g., stools) and preferably a small pantry (possibly accessible via a "fake" kitchen cabinet), plus a small “bench” made from low cabinets by the window, double-leaf sliding door guided inside the wall to separate dining / living area,
Bright dining area,
Spacious living area, preferably with a panoramic fireplace as a room divider (not next to the TV),
Guest room / office,
Generous utility room with space for possibly two electrical panels, softener system, ground source heat pump, washing machine (possibly dryer), and drying rack,
Guest WC with shower.
Upper Floor (UF): at least 2 children’s rooms, 1 storage room, bedroom can be fairly small. Instead, a spacious bathroom with 2 washbasins (or 1 long basin with 2 faucets), bathtub up to 2 m (6.5 ft), and shower. WC with privacy screen, e.g., with door T-shaped.
Walk-through dressing room between bedroom and bathroom. Sliding door on the wall between bedroom and dressing room and regular door between dressing room and bathroom. Bathroom should also be accessible from the hallway.
General:
Many windows (included in house price without limitation on number or size), some floor-to-ceiling. Possibly preparation in the bedroom for access to the (planned) roof terrace on the garage,
Lifting sliding door system between living / dining area and terrace,
Doors at least 1 m (39 inches) wide on the ground floor,
Terrace on the left side of the house, i.e., facing south. Depending on kitchen location, possibly also a narrower terrace around the corner at the top.
Ultimately, we think it would almost be nicer if the kitchen were on the left so you can look into the garden from there and have direct access to the large terrace. But this criterion changes with every revision of the floor plan :|
House Design
Who designed the plan:
The house plans mainly come from us with some inspiration from the internet.
So far, there has been no truly professional involvement. The upper floor plan was found directly online. However, there the house width is only 10 m (33 ft) instead of 10.5 m (34 ft). Also, the bay window on the left is obviously not included. It would be great to add a small storage room here.
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you dislike? Why?
The two above points are not fully answered yet. We have often moved the kitchen from right to left and back without finding an ideal solution.
Similarly, we are not sure whether the garage should be placed far forward with some space behind for storage out of garden view, or moved about 2 m (6.5 ft) further back (3 m / 10 ft from boundary) to gain some visual privacy from the diagonal neighbor. We are open to innovative ideas about garage placement. It must definitely have access to the house.
Estimated cost according to architect / planner: 230,000
Personal budget limit for house including features: 240,000 (excluding garage, but including foundation slab)
Preferred heating technology: ground source heat pump
If you have to give up some features / extensions:
- What can you do without: hard to say, maybe the pantry? Though supplies would then have to be stored in expensive kitchen cabinets that offer less space.
- What can’t you do without: guest room on the ground floor, space for drying rack in the utility room (never want one of those racks visible in a living area again!).
Why is the design the way it is now?
The design came about through lots of freehand drawing on paper and tinkering on computer to get the best results. Unfortunately, we are stuck now.
Which of your wishes have been implemented by the architect?
A mixture of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think works well or poorly?
Poor: the downstairs and upstairs layouts are hard to coordinate, especially because of the staircase.
Pretty good: the upper floor layout, except that fitting a second door into the bathroom will be difficult.
Downstairs we have been constantly swapping kitchen front left and guest room top right or vice versa. We haven’t agreed on what would be easier to furnish.
What is your key fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can we fit all our wishes in the best mix of space, appearance, and usability in the floor plan?
Note: The plan might receive harsh criticism from forum users. Feedback is usually unfiltered—please be prepared. Nobody means to offend; it’s their perspective to help or open your eyes.
Thanks in advance for your help
Plot size: 626 sqm (6730 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: 0.35 + 50% for ancillary structures
Floor area ratio:
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 ft), no special requirements
Edge development: permitted
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of floors: 3
Roof type: -
Architectural style: -
Orientation: -
Maximum heights / limits: 12 m (39 ft)
Additional requirements: 1 tree per every 300 sqm (3200 sq ft) started
Homeowners’ Requirements
City villa style, hip / pyramid roof
2 full stories
Residents: 2 adults, around 30 years old, 1-2 children planned
Room requirements:
Ground floor: kitchen / dining / living / pantry / guest room (office) / utility room / guest WC
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms / walk-in closet / storage / bathroom
Office: on ground floor, also to be used as guest room
Occasional overnight guests
Open or closed layout: partly open / partly closed
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island, possibly a small pantry
Minimum seating at dining table: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: home cinema area
Roof terrace: possibly planned later on garage
Garage: yes, double garage with workshop / storage area: 9 m × 6.5 m (30 ft × 21 ft) with access to the house, planned as self-built, driveway large enough for 2 cars
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
Primarily for aesthetic reasons, a small bay window should be included. Not deeper than 50 cm (20 inches) due to roof overhang. There will be a canopy over the front door as a visual relief, so the bay window should face the garden.
Ground Floor (GF):
Bright hallway,
Large kitchen with island (including seating, e.g., stools) and preferably a small pantry (possibly accessible via a "fake" kitchen cabinet), plus a small “bench” made from low cabinets by the window, double-leaf sliding door guided inside the wall to separate dining / living area,
Bright dining area,
Spacious living area, preferably with a panoramic fireplace as a room divider (not next to the TV),
Guest room / office,
Generous utility room with space for possibly two electrical panels, softener system, ground source heat pump, washing machine (possibly dryer), and drying rack,
Guest WC with shower.
Upper Floor (UF): at least 2 children’s rooms, 1 storage room, bedroom can be fairly small. Instead, a spacious bathroom with 2 washbasins (or 1 long basin with 2 faucets), bathtub up to 2 m (6.5 ft), and shower. WC with privacy screen, e.g., with door T-shaped.
Walk-through dressing room between bedroom and bathroom. Sliding door on the wall between bedroom and dressing room and regular door between dressing room and bathroom. Bathroom should also be accessible from the hallway.
General:
Many windows (included in house price without limitation on number or size), some floor-to-ceiling. Possibly preparation in the bedroom for access to the (planned) roof terrace on the garage,
Lifting sliding door system between living / dining area and terrace,
Doors at least 1 m (39 inches) wide on the ground floor,
Terrace on the left side of the house, i.e., facing south. Depending on kitchen location, possibly also a narrower terrace around the corner at the top.
Ultimately, we think it would almost be nicer if the kitchen were on the left so you can look into the garden from there and have direct access to the large terrace. But this criterion changes with every revision of the floor plan :|
House Design
Who designed the plan:
The house plans mainly come from us with some inspiration from the internet.
So far, there has been no truly professional involvement. The upper floor plan was found directly online. However, there the house width is only 10 m (33 ft) instead of 10.5 m (34 ft). Also, the bay window on the left is obviously not included. It would be great to add a small storage room here.
What do you particularly like? Why?
What do you dislike? Why?
The two above points are not fully answered yet. We have often moved the kitchen from right to left and back without finding an ideal solution.
Similarly, we are not sure whether the garage should be placed far forward with some space behind for storage out of garden view, or moved about 2 m (6.5 ft) further back (3 m / 10 ft from boundary) to gain some visual privacy from the diagonal neighbor. We are open to innovative ideas about garage placement. It must definitely have access to the house.
Estimated cost according to architect / planner: 230,000
Personal budget limit for house including features: 240,000 (excluding garage, but including foundation slab)
Preferred heating technology: ground source heat pump
If you have to give up some features / extensions:
- What can you do without: hard to say, maybe the pantry? Though supplies would then have to be stored in expensive kitchen cabinets that offer less space.
- What can’t you do without: guest room on the ground floor, space for drying rack in the utility room (never want one of those racks visible in a living area again!).
Why is the design the way it is now?
The design came about through lots of freehand drawing on paper and tinkering on computer to get the best results. Unfortunately, we are stuck now.
Which of your wishes have been implemented by the architect?
A mixture of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think works well or poorly?
Poor: the downstairs and upstairs layouts are hard to coordinate, especially because of the staircase.
Pretty good: the upper floor layout, except that fitting a second door into the bathroom will be difficult.
Downstairs we have been constantly swapping kitchen front left and guest room top right or vice versa. We haven’t agreed on what would be easier to furnish.
What is your key fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can we fit all our wishes in the best mix of space, appearance, and usability in the floor plan?
Note: The plan might receive harsh criticism from forum users. Feedback is usually unfiltered—please be prepared. Nobody means to offend; it’s their perspective to help or open your eyes.
Thanks in advance for your help
No, the exterior dimensions may vary. The house type provided by the builder is listed as 10.50 * 9.50 meters (34.4 * 31.2 feet) = 99.75 square meters (1,073 square feet) of floor area. As long as the total floor area remains the same, it’s not a problem, we were told.
So if the house, for example, extends 1 meter (3.3 feet) further forward towards the street side and becomes slightly narrower in return, we would simply have a larger contiguous garden area. We wouldn’t complain about that.
However, the garage must definitely not be moved forward. There needs to be at least 5 meters (16.4 feet) of space between the garage and the property boundary to ensure two parking spaces.
If the house moves forward by 1 meter (3.3 feet), I would probably move the garage back by 1 meter (3.3 feet). It looks odd if the house and garage fronts are only offset by 1 meter (3.3 feet), right?
Phew, symmetry isn’t wrong in itself. But I would say that a “controlled” asymmetry can also have its appeal.
So if the house, for example, extends 1 meter (3.3 feet) further forward towards the street side and becomes slightly narrower in return, we would simply have a larger contiguous garden area. We wouldn’t complain about that.
However, the garage must definitely not be moved forward. There needs to be at least 5 meters (16.4 feet) of space between the garage and the property boundary to ensure two parking spaces.
If the house moves forward by 1 meter (3.3 feet), I would probably move the garage back by 1 meter (3.3 feet). It looks odd if the house and garage fronts are only offset by 1 meter (3.3 feet), right?
Phew, symmetry isn’t wrong in itself. But I would say that a “controlled” asymmetry can also have its appeal.
Patkia schrieb:
Doesn't it look odd if the house and garage fronts are offset by only 1 meter (3 feet)?No, I don’t think so. If everything is aligned in one line, it looks very bulky from the front.
Patkia schrieb:
In any case, the garage definitely shouldn’t be moved forward. Because there has to be 5 meters (16 feet) of space from the garage to the property boundary to ensure two parking spaces.So you have a building setback of 5 meters (16 feet)?No, I think I didn’t express myself clearly.
What I meant is that either everything is aligned on one line or at least offset by 2 meters (about 6.5 feet). Because I find an offset of just 1 meter (about 3.3 feet) a bit odd.
The 5 meters (about 16.5 feet) is not a strict requirement, but I want to keep space for 2 parking spots in front of the garage, so visitors can park sometimes (or me, if I don’t want to drive into the garage).
Since vehicles are generally around 5 meters (16.5 feet) long, I took that as the minimum distance in front of the garage.
What I meant is that either everything is aligned on one line or at least offset by 2 meters (about 6.5 feet). Because I find an offset of just 1 meter (about 3.3 feet) a bit odd.
The 5 meters (about 16.5 feet) is not a strict requirement, but I want to keep space for 2 parking spots in front of the garage, so visitors can park sometimes (or me, if I don’t want to drive into the garage).
Since vehicles are generally around 5 meters (16.5 feet) long, I took that as the minimum distance in front of the garage.
The guest room is acceptable in size.
It should be considered whether the pantry could be allocated to the utility/technical room.
There is probably not enough space for two dining spots.
Possibly remove the door to the garage to gain more room for parking. With children, the laundry piles up significantly.
Cooking, living, dining, guest room, and utility/technical room are on the ground floor.
Two children's rooms, bedroom, dressing room, and bathroom on the upper floor is the standard layout even for this house size.
I can't find the floor plan anymore. We had received an offer from Schwörerhaus. It was a house from the catalog. It should fit your needs.
It should be considered whether the pantry could be allocated to the utility/technical room.
There is probably not enough space for two dining spots.
Possibly remove the door to the garage to gain more room for parking. With children, the laundry piles up significantly.
Cooking, living, dining, guest room, and utility/technical room are on the ground floor.
Two children's rooms, bedroom, dressing room, and bathroom on the upper floor is the standard layout even for this house size.
I can't find the floor plan anymore. We had received an offer from Schwörerhaus. It was a house from the catalog. It should fit your needs.
Patkia schrieb:
Phew, symmetry is not necessarily a bad thing. But I would say that a "controlled" asymmetry can also be appealing. I would even say: symmetry needs character; otherwise, the facade looks like a stamped piece.
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Just a quick mix… but I’m not really in a creative phase right now… You have to take a look at the windows:
The ground floor is shown below. Hopefully, the dimensions are visible on the ground floor side. My software doesn’t provide more.
Keep in mind that the exterior walls need to be adjusted. It will be tight then.
A disadvantage is the 1-meter (3.3 ft) wide doors downstairs: this leaves hardly any space of 60–70 cm (24–28 inches) behind them. This is very important to me. Because of this, the office can’t comfortably serve as a bedroom.
I find the partition wall between the kitchen and living room unnecessary: the living room then has a lot of unused space, which reduces the overall spaciousness.
The garage is pushed forward, but still has parking space, which could also be created in front of the house.
Upstairs there is excess space in square meters, which shows in what I consider to be too large children’s rooms… I have now pushed the lower wall slightly; they were about 18 m² (193.8 sq ft) each (yes, 16.5 and 18 m² (177.6 and 193.8 sq ft)). The dressing area is relatively large, as is the bedroom.
The tricky part lies in the details of the wishes!
Oh yes: the wardrobe is 2 meters (6.6 ft) wide, and the pantry is under the stairs.
The problem now arises because of the side door.
I might even place the main entrance door on the right side and skip the second entrance, as usual.
The storage room could then serve as a connection between the garage and the house/main entrance.
I wouldn’t take my design as a standard or even as a suggestion, but rather as an example of what not to do.
P.S. To all the princes and kings out there — why not get involved yourselves instead of criticizing people who are actively contributing here? More floor plan! discussions are always welcome.
The ground floor is shown below. Hopefully, the dimensions are visible on the ground floor side. My software doesn’t provide more.
Keep in mind that the exterior walls need to be adjusted. It will be tight then.
A disadvantage is the 1-meter (3.3 ft) wide doors downstairs: this leaves hardly any space of 60–70 cm (24–28 inches) behind them. This is very important to me. Because of this, the office can’t comfortably serve as a bedroom.
I find the partition wall between the kitchen and living room unnecessary: the living room then has a lot of unused space, which reduces the overall spaciousness.
The garage is pushed forward, but still has parking space, which could also be created in front of the house.
Upstairs there is excess space in square meters, which shows in what I consider to be too large children’s rooms… I have now pushed the lower wall slightly; they were about 18 m² (193.8 sq ft) each (yes, 16.5 and 18 m² (177.6 and 193.8 sq ft)). The dressing area is relatively large, as is the bedroom.
The tricky part lies in the details of the wishes!
Oh yes: the wardrobe is 2 meters (6.6 ft) wide, and the pantry is under the stairs.
The problem now arises because of the side door.
I might even place the main entrance door on the right side and skip the second entrance, as usual.
The storage room could then serve as a connection between the garage and the house/main entrance.
I wouldn’t take my design as a standard or even as a suggestion, but rather as an example of what not to do.
P.S. To all the princes and kings out there — why not get involved yourselves instead of criticizing people who are actively contributing here? More floor plan! discussions are always welcome.
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