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Leistchen25 Nov 2019 14:48Hello,
I am new to the forum but have been following the discussions for some time and have a few questions about an upcoming project. Maybe someone has some answers for me.
I am currently renovating our hallway and want to install a suspended ceiling. My usual approach to drilling and fixing is the classic one: mark holes, drill holes, vacuum, insert anchors, pre-drill battens, and fix with screws. As some of you may know, this involves many steps that I want to avoid. Therefore, I am now considering using hammer anchors, with which I have no experience.
I plan to install a substructure using 30x50/40x60mm (1.2x2/1.6x2.4 inches) counter battens and 30x50mm (1.2x2 inches) main battens to mount drywall panels on the ceiling. I have a few questions about the counter battens and their fixing:
1. What is the difference between hammer anchors / nail anchors and frame anchors?
2. I intended to fix the counter battens with hammer anchors. How deep should the anchors be embedded in the concrete ceiling? I usually estimate a depth of 50 to 60mm (2 to 2.4 inches). Is that sufficient, or do they need to be embedded deeper in the concrete? Are there any guidelines I can refer to?
3. How long and thick should the hammer anchors be if I use counter battens sized 40x60mm (1.6x2.4 inches)?
4. If I drill the holes directly through the battens into the ceiling, which drill bit is best to use? Are masonry drill bits unsuitable for this?
I would appreciate any tips and information.
Kind regards
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I am new to the forum but have been following the discussions for some time and have a few questions about an upcoming project. Maybe someone has some answers for me.
I am currently renovating our hallway and want to install a suspended ceiling. My usual approach to drilling and fixing is the classic one: mark holes, drill holes, vacuum, insert anchors, pre-drill battens, and fix with screws. As some of you may know, this involves many steps that I want to avoid. Therefore, I am now considering using hammer anchors, with which I have no experience.
I plan to install a substructure using 30x50/40x60mm (1.2x2/1.6x2.4 inches) counter battens and 30x50mm (1.2x2 inches) main battens to mount drywall panels on the ceiling. I have a few questions about the counter battens and their fixing:
1. What is the difference between hammer anchors / nail anchors and frame anchors?
2. I intended to fix the counter battens with hammer anchors. How deep should the anchors be embedded in the concrete ceiling? I usually estimate a depth of 50 to 60mm (2 to 2.4 inches). Is that sufficient, or do they need to be embedded deeper in the concrete? Are there any guidelines I can refer to?
3. How long and thick should the hammer anchors be if I use counter battens sized 40x60mm (1.6x2.4 inches)?
4. If I drill the holes directly through the battens into the ceiling, which drill bit is best to use? Are masonry drill bits unsuitable for this?
I would appreciate any tips and information.
Kind regards
L
Hammer anchors have no place in ceilings.
The easiest method is to attach small brackets in a grid pattern on the ceiling, using anchors approved for reinforced concrete ceilings and suitable screws. This allows for some adjustment and makes it relatively simple to align and install the battens.
The easiest method is to attach small brackets in a grid pattern on the ceiling, using anchors approved for reinforced concrete ceilings and suitable screws. This allows for some adjustment and makes it relatively simple to align and install the battens.
Personally, I wouldn’t use wooden battens; it’s too much work to properly align those usually warped pieces.
Just take a look at the installation manuals of the major drywall manufacturers (Knauf, Rigips, Siniat, etc.). Especially in hallways, where the spans are typically very short, you usually don’t need to drill into the ceiling at all.
Just take a look at the installation manuals of the major drywall manufacturers (Knauf, Rigips, Siniat, etc.). Especially in hallways, where the spans are typically very short, you usually don’t need to drill into the ceiling at all.
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Leistchen26 Nov 2019 10:06Why should hammer drive anchors not be used in ceilings? They are essentially just regular anchors with screws. The difference is that hammer drive anchors achieve their holding strength through surface area.
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Leistchen26 Nov 2019 10:08Our hallway is quite large in terms of area. The Knauf system could be an alternative; I hadn’t considered that yet. However, these also need to be securely screwed in.
There may be some specialized products that private individuals usually cannot buy or that are incredibly expensive. The items you typically find at hardware stores are mainly designed for shear load, such as for walls or floors. The additional effort for anchor/bolt installation is about 10 seconds per hole, and for this, you can find numerous products at any hardware store.
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