Hello everyone,
We are currently at the stage in our planning where we have submitted the building notification. The city now states that the terrace roof, being a separate structural element, cannot be included in the calculation of the number of floors. Inclusion is only possible if the roof is clearly part of the house structure, for example, a shed roof or extended ceiling slabs.
Since the building regulations do not allow for two full stories, we wanted to reach that value using this terrace.
Now, my question: Are there any additional options beyond the two mentioned above that would allow this to count toward the living area?
Attached are the floor plan of the ground floor and rear and side elevations.
Regards,
KonstantinW
We are currently at the stage in our planning where we have submitted the building notification. The city now states that the terrace roof, being a separate structural element, cannot be included in the calculation of the number of floors. Inclusion is only possible if the roof is clearly part of the house structure, for example, a shed roof or extended ceiling slabs.
Since the building regulations do not allow for two full stories, we wanted to reach that value using this terrace.
Now, my question: Are there any additional options beyond the two mentioned above that would allow this to count toward the living area?
Attached are the floor plan of the ground floor and rear and side elevations.
Regards,
KonstantinW
K
KonstantinW8 Dec 2020 12:5811ant schrieb:
Quite "confident" ;-) for someone who has a problem and is offered a solution. You are making a false assumption if you conclude from just one solution that there must be a better one among those not yet mentioned. (Unfortunately, that only applies to Cinderella).
I have experience in this field for about forty years, not as extensive as Escroda – but enough to tell you quite surely: in your case, the set of solutions contains exactly ONE element. If you exclude from this set, by definition (“solutions that are not Wolpertinger don’t count”), then your solution set becomes an empty set.
You have an upper floor with the same exterior dimensions as the ground floor – so these areas are equal in size. The only thing that enlarges your ground floor here is a covered terrace – which, regardless of whether its roof is screwed, glued, or welded to the house, does not count as an enclosed space to fully qualify. To reach your target by using this covered terrace alone, it would have to increase the ground floor area by two-thirds – and if your building permit / planning permission and your floor space ratio allowed that, it would still be an expensive solution. You shouldn’t so readily dismiss a simpler solution. Even Olivia Jones with mega heels and a hat or tower hairstyle doesn’t necessarily need headroom equivalent to a 2.60m (8.5 ft) room height everywhere in the attic. But by all means – keep dreaming. Still, I look forward to the ingenious solution you’ll present afterward – thanks in advance, as many readers will appreciate it. As I said, it is a solution, but not the one we want.
I have a handful of solutions that the architect suggested, and shortening the knee wall is definitely the last option.
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KonstantinW8 Dec 2020 13:00Sparfuchs_:p schrieb:
What if you design the terrace as an unheated conservatory? The glass panels could be "removed later" 😉 Just an idea, no idea if it would be a solution ^^ Thanks for that 🙂
We will consider the ideas mentioned and will meet with the architect soon to see what he says.
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Matthew038 Dec 2020 13:48KonstantinW schrieb:
I have a handful of solutions that the architect mentioned to me.Could you specify that a bit more?
KonstantinW schrieb:
I have a handful of solutions that the architect mentioned to me, and shortening the knee wall is definitely the last option.That was Yvonne’s suggestion, not mine (because the reduction would have to be quite significant to have an effect on the floor count – that’s why I didn’t consider it in the first place). Matthew03 schrieb:
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KonstantinW8 Dec 2020 15:3211ant schrieb:
That was Yvonne’s suggestion, not mine (because the reduction would have to be quite significant to effectively count as below full floor level – which is why I didn’t consider it in the first place).and then I said that we don’t want it that way. Your response was "not even if it’s the solution?"
Matthew03 schrieb:
Can you clarify that?Once we have discussed everything with the architect in the next few days, I will list the other ideas.
.. back to the terrace, attached is a design from acquaintances where this approach to floor level recognition was accepted.
So readers following along can see something 😉
KonstantinW schrieb:
and I then said that we don't want it that way. No, that’s how you dismissed my post #13 – (at least to me) not Yvonne’s suggestion about the shortened knee wall. I was referring to lower rooms, if you want to rule out sloped ceilings in the first place.
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