Dear all,
I am currently facing a delivery issue with my heat pump (Vaillant Arotherm Plus VWL 75/6), which is not available from any dealer and according to the manufacturer will likely only be delivered in calendar week 6 of 2022. With winter approaching and my heating technician now using his instantaneous water heater at another customer’s place, the situation is becoming quite problematic. He is offering me a 5 kW (kilowatt) fan heater as a temporary solution, but I’m concerned that this will lead to very high energy costs.
For this reason, I have come up with the idea of getting a readily available monoblock heat pump to use just as a temporary measure until my Vaillant arrives. There seems to be a Panasonic model (probably from the series of the well-known and widely recommended “Geisha”) which appears to be suitable and is available at a reasonable price (around 3500 EUR). I would then resell it afterwards.
However, since the market for used heat pumps is rather small, I wonder whether this will really be cheaper than heating electrically with direct heating for three months. I have roughly calculated that in the worst case, I would have to expect heating costs of 2500-3000 EUR with electric direct heating (depending on extent and weather conditions).
Does anyone here have experience with this?
@Benutzer200, if I remember correctly, you once installed a Panasonic unit? Did you happen to sell it later on?
Well, I hope someone has faced a similar problem and can share their experience.
Kind regards
Tolentino
I am currently facing a delivery issue with my heat pump (Vaillant Arotherm Plus VWL 75/6), which is not available from any dealer and according to the manufacturer will likely only be delivered in calendar week 6 of 2022. With winter approaching and my heating technician now using his instantaneous water heater at another customer’s place, the situation is becoming quite problematic. He is offering me a 5 kW (kilowatt) fan heater as a temporary solution, but I’m concerned that this will lead to very high energy costs.
For this reason, I have come up with the idea of getting a readily available monoblock heat pump to use just as a temporary measure until my Vaillant arrives. There seems to be a Panasonic model (probably from the series of the well-known and widely recommended “Geisha”) which appears to be suitable and is available at a reasonable price (around 3500 EUR). I would then resell it afterwards.
However, since the market for used heat pumps is rather small, I wonder whether this will really be cheaper than heating electrically with direct heating for three months. I have roughly calculated that in the worst case, I would have to expect heating costs of 2500-3000 EUR with electric direct heating (depending on extent and weather conditions).
Does anyone here have experience with this?
@Benutzer200, if I remember correctly, you once installed a Panasonic unit? Did you happen to sell it later on?
Well, I hope someone has faced a similar problem and can share their experience.
Kind regards
Tolentino
I do believe that the later conversion will also involve significant costs. By the way, the water storage tank is integrated into the tower. At least, that's how it is with our Vaillant air source heat pump. I’m sure some of the pipes would also need to be rerouted.
Did your heating engineer order the heating system too late? I can already see considerable costs coming your way. Also, it’s supposed to get quite chilly in the coming weeks. By the way, I am using the Vaillant Arotherm Plus VWL 75/5. 🙂
Did your heating engineer order the heating system too late? I can already see considerable costs coming your way. Also, it’s supposed to get quite chilly in the coming weeks. By the way, I am using the Vaillant Arotherm Plus VWL 75/5. 🙂
According to the heating technician, the heat pump itself is not too complicated. It’s mainly about connecting the pipes quietly and supplying electricity. The hot water storage tank is another matter, though. He might need to check the installation manuals (BDA) for the heat pumps or the system to figure that out.
I already have it installed myself, which is why I’m asking.
Well, we’ll see.
No, he relied on the warehouse stock shown on the wholesaler’s portal, assuming that placing an order with a desired delivery date in the future would reserve the item. That turned out to be multiple misunderstandings, along with incorrect information from the wholesaler.
In the end, it seems this is happening to everyone right now. It’s related to the ongoing global semiconductor shortage.
I already have it installed myself, which is why I’m asking.
Well, we’ll see.
No, he relied on the warehouse stock shown on the wholesaler’s portal, assuming that placing an order with a desired delivery date in the future would reserve the item. That turned out to be multiple misunderstandings, along with incorrect information from the wholesaler.
In the end, it seems this is happening to everyone right now. It’s related to the ongoing global semiconductor shortage.
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hampshire12 Nov 2021 18:37Tolentino schrieb:
For this reason, I came up with the idea to get an available monobloc heat pump to run only as a temporary solution until my Vaillant arrives. I like the way you approach problem-solving. You can calculate from which resale price you would actually make a "profit." That resale price is attractive enough that selling it shouldn’t be a problem. You could even team up now with someone who wants to buy one but doesn’t need it yet. "Who wants to install a Gesha next summer and save money?" (Installing a Gesha sounds a bit off.)
Tolentino schrieb:
@Benutzer200, do I remember correctly that you’ve installed a Panasonic before? Did you happen to sell one at some point as well? I would have asked, “Will you need one again soon?”
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Benutzer20012 Nov 2021 19:43Tolentino schrieb:
Maybe it's better to ask that in the pink message board, right?I think so too. That's where the Geisha experts hang out. Regardless, the real professionals for heating system design and heat pump adjustment are there as well 😉Similar topics