ᐅ Bungalow with a gable roof, edge development, 8 by 17 meters
Created on: 29 Apr 2018 22:51
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Grit Stephan
Hello,
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
Grit Stephan5 May 2018 09:54I have already shared my thoughts on the front door for the north-facing option and why it keeps "falling through"...
Although I have revisited this possibility several times.
It might give the impression that it’s set in stone. But I need to add here that I asked for input because I wanted to find out if it would be possible to realize my original idea on this plot.
Because what you are suggesting was also thoughtfully considered (we have been "planning" for quite some time), but we have not yet reached the point where our vision is final.
The southwest garden... That was our first plan as well. But I’ve also tried to convey that even though it faces west, planting is planned. Unfortunately,
the poplar tree already shades a large part of the property throughout the day.
So your idea of having the living room facing southwest will definitely be in the shade of the trees until about 5:00 p.m.
And that’s why I’ve tried to explain why the east side will ultimately receive more sun than the south side...
I’m still open to options... but I do have some insights that you might better understand if we stand together on the property.
Although I have revisited this possibility several times.
It might give the impression that it’s set in stone. But I need to add here that I asked for input because I wanted to find out if it would be possible to realize my original idea on this plot.
Because what you are suggesting was also thoughtfully considered (we have been "planning" for quite some time), but we have not yet reached the point where our vision is final.
The southwest garden... That was our first plan as well. But I’ve also tried to convey that even though it faces west, planting is planned. Unfortunately,
the poplar tree already shades a large part of the property throughout the day.
So your idea of having the living room facing southwest will definitely be in the shade of the trees until about 5:00 p.m.
And that’s why I’ve tried to explain why the east side will ultimately receive more sun than the south side...
I’m still open to options... but I do have some insights that you might better understand if we stand together on the property.
Well... the spring/autumn/winter situation is definitely better for the south/southwest, as the sun is lower in the sky there.
That’s why I find focusing only on east/southeast quite limiting. I lived for years in an apartment facing only east with one southeast window. Now I have east, south, and slightly southwest exposure, and it’s a world of difference, especially outside of mid-summer (when the sun is more directly overhead).
That’s why I find focusing only on east/southeast quite limiting. I lived for years in an apartment facing only east with one southeast window. Now I have east, south, and slightly southwest exposure, and it’s a world of difference, especially outside of mid-summer (when the sun is more directly overhead).
Grit Stephan schrieb:
I was referring to the wall above the ground floor, basically the one that will be on the extension... if I roughly plan one part with a 4m (13 ft) high wall, to gain an attic space, and implement this Tetris effect like in Climbee’s drawing. Ah, I must have missed that context behind your question. Yes, for supporting a (solid) exterior wall above, a beam positioned like that would be a suitable solution.
However, considering the generous zoning plan, I don’t see a need to add storage space on top of the living areas.
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Grit Stephan5 May 2018 18:2511ant schrieb:
However, given the generous zoning plan, I don’t see the need to add storage space on top of the living areas.How then?
Would that mean creating more living space?
That would theoretically cost more than an unheated attic, right?
(Not necessarily in general, but in the case of a bungalow or L-shaped bungalow, that would be the case...?)
And if you plan with a pitched roof, the storage space is simply there... A flat roof would make more sense aesthetically if you want to achieve the look of a Tetris block.
And without the increased volume on the side, the appearance is quite different.
And then you might as well just design a trapezoid?
Grit Stephan5 May 2018 18:40kbt09 schrieb:
Well... the spring/autumn/winter situation is definitely better for the south/southwest. The sun is lower then. I find focusing only on the east/southeast quite limiting. I lived for years in an apartment with windows facing only east and one southeast window. Now I have east, south, and slightly southwest... it’s like night and day, especially outside of the midsummer period (when the sun is nearly vertical).That’s a strong argument.
But on the one hand, I assumed that with appropriate windows, for example floor-to-ceiling ones and several in the living area, you can bring in enough light... and ultimately it will only be morning or evening sun that shines directly inside...
And the evening sun also passes along the left and right sides of the house into the east-facing garden... that was my thought...
I’ll take all your thoughts and go back to the site tomorrow and reflect on it some more.
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