ᐅ Bungalow with a gable roof, edge development, 8 by 17 meters
Created on: 29 Apr 2018 22:51
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Grit Stephan
Hello,
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
Grit Stephan4 May 2018 22:52If I roughly keep the layout of the railway carriage floor plan as it is? Or make fundamental changes? I’m still leaning towards having the living area in the east.
@Climbee
But it needs a beam, right? (the blue wall in the example) And the fixed window wouldn’t really be a load-bearing wall, since it’s an extension? What if there was a flat roof on top?
But I can just explore the design for fun. I’m open to learning... even if it turns out that it’s not within the budget.
@Climbee
But it needs a beam, right? (the blue wall in the example) And the fixed window wouldn’t really be a load-bearing wall, since it’s an extension? What if there was a flat roof on top?
But I can just explore the design for fun. I’m open to learning... even if it turns out that it’s not within the budget.
Grit Stephan schrieb:
If I roughly keep the train carriage floor plan layout? Haha, now the association is “derailed train carriage”
Grit Stephan schrieb:
But it needs a beam, right? (the blue wall in the example) Why would it need a beam here? – no one says exterior walls have to be parallel.
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Grit Stephan4 May 2018 23:0711ant schrieb:
Haha, now I just associate it with a "train car derailment" Looks like it.
My current house plan title is now Tetris.
11ant schrieb:
Why would a beam be needed here? - no one said that exterior walls have to be parallel.Does that mean the exterior wall over the extension could also run above the walls (children’s room door) or anywhere else (with a reinforced concrete ceiling), and at most I might need a structural engineering solution, similar to the train car, because of the room size? (Edit: in the living room)
I always thought you needed an interior wall to support the gable? (like a cross brace inside, due to wind loads)
But I assumed the architect and structural engineer would already calculate that for me and tell me the costs if necessary...
Grit Stephan4 May 2018 23:2211ant schrieb:
Why would a beam be needed here? No one says the exterior walls have to be parallel. Oh, I think I misunderstood something earlier.
Now I get the counter question.
No, the exterior walls… of course… they don’t have to be parallel.
I was referring to the wall above the ground floor, which basically sits on the extension… if I plan one part with maybe a 4m (13 feet) high wall to create an attic, implementing this Tetris effect like in Climbee’s drawing. So the extension would have a wall about 2.5m (8 feet) high, each with a flat roof… then there must be a wall 1.5m (5 feet) high on top of the ground floor on one side.
.. yes, there are quite a few options. However, I see the dining/cooking/living area more towards the southwest.
Why are you now so focused on storage space in the attic? Your previous plans had very little storage, which I thought was insufficient, so I had already included more storage space in my plan.
Do you really see a need for attic storage? What exactly do you have in mind?
Climbee was probably thinking more along the lines of a partial full floor for some of the bedrooms – or @Climbee?
Why are you now so focused on storage space in the attic? Your previous plans had very little storage, which I thought was insufficient, so I had already included more storage space in my plan.
Do you really see a need for attic storage? What exactly do you have in mind?
Climbee was probably thinking more along the lines of a partial full floor for some of the bedrooms – or @Climbee?
Grit Stephan5 May 2018 08:02Some storage space has always been planned in the attic, even in railway carriages.
Without a basement, we will definitely need it, although it won’t be very large. And "closet storage" won’t help here, especially since I don’t want to fill my living space with wardrobes.
We have various sports equipment (surfing, skiing, etc.), plus several items that stay outdoors in the summer garden and need to be stored away in the winter...
And not all of that fits in the garage, and there is no basement for that.
I used the attic in this example because, first, the effect with the building block wouldn’t work otherwise. Also, I am not currently planning a two-story house, and I just picked up the idea with the building block.
At first, I only looked at bungalow plans or considered bungalows because doing everything at once isn’t possible, which doesn’t mean I won’t continue to develop my ideas further.
Without a basement, we will definitely need it, although it won’t be very large. And "closet storage" won’t help here, especially since I don’t want to fill my living space with wardrobes.
We have various sports equipment (surfing, skiing, etc.), plus several items that stay outdoors in the summer garden and need to be stored away in the winter...
And not all of that fits in the garage, and there is no basement for that.
I used the attic in this example because, first, the effect with the building block wouldn’t work otherwise. Also, I am not currently planning a two-story house, and I just picked up the idea with the building block.
At first, I only looked at bungalow plans or considered bungalows because doing everything at once isn’t possible, which doesn’t mean I won’t continue to develop my ideas further.
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