ᐅ Bungalow with a gable roof, edge development, 8 by 17 meters
Created on: 29 Apr 2018 22:51
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Grit Stephan
Hello,
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
Grit Stephan1 May 2018 23:47kbt09 schrieb:
I have developed the earlier sketch into a more individualized version.Wow
Some really cool ideas.
Actually, I need a few days to think about such a layout.
But my first impression is:
The master area is really something. I personally prefer it to be more open, for example, the walk-in closet wouldn’t necessarily need to be separated by a wall. The office, of course, should be enclosed.
Also, the living room feels too separated from the kitchen. I would move the entrance area accordingly. Or rather, the living room seems too small compared to the dining space. And I don’t like a “kitchen corridor.”
The kids’ rooms feel too far from the garden, as I really think it’s nice when our children can step outside through the floor-to-ceiling windows in the summer. I don’t know if that really makes sense—also considering possible mess—but I would prefer the kids’ windows to face south.
But I think I see the potential and possibilities you mentioned.
Also, the layout really keeps the options open for different terrace variants or multiple possibilities.
Grit Stephan1 May 2018 23:52ypg schrieb:
A staggered shed roof is more expensive.
A simple one might be cost-neutral.
But you really have to be a shed roof type of person. It doesn’t work if you force it.
And @Grit Stephan compares it to a garage roof. So I don’t think it’s really an option.
A gable roof is fine though. Well, I have also called my railway carriage a shack, so I think a shed roof, if well executed, could indeed be cool... But the question is how....
Grit Stephan1 May 2018 23:54ypg schrieb:
I didn’t quote you either
The building plot definitely allows for a decent house, and that without any special tricks with the roof or elsewhere. I even see an L-shape, but an L-shape is always a bit more expensive, though not by much.We have already roughly discussed the L-shape with a construction company, and the conclusion was that it is feasible.
If I find the right solution. Budget-wise, though, it would be without roof overhang.
Edit: that is for the terrace. Also, I’m not in favor if it blocks light from the windows.
Grit Stephan2 May 2018 00:2311ant schrieb:
t. What do you mean by wind load against the "higher side"?I am thinking of a neighborhood in my hometown with several buildings featuring shed roofs.
They were apartment buildings known for being quite noisy during windy conditions.
However, these buildings were constructed mostly of wood, were relatively tall, and had steep slopes.
Grit Stephan3 May 2018 22:28Steffi33 schrieb:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/attachments/Grundriss-jpg.14461/
Best regards, SteffiWe really like the floor plan.
And the bay windows definitely add more charm to the house.
11ant schrieb:
Would you like to share your angled bungalow tries (even if unfinished)?Yes, I have also worked on Kerstin’s suggestion in my mind only. I still plan to put it on paper though, and who knows what might come out of it.
This was my attempt about 2 months ago or so:
But I don’t really like this idea, although it would incorporate my preferences. ... that long hallway... Kerstin’s suggestion is more suitable for that.
And the following was our inspiration: I’ve actually had this bungalow in mind for years. However, the side entrance makes the overall layout better solved:
A staircase from the utility room to the attic is definitely a great idea. But for that, you probably need a roof pitch steeper than 22° (degrees), right? How much standing height do you get at 22° or 35°, without a knee wall?
And if I understood correctly, there’s also a price difference? Not because of the materials, but due to the roof structure? Or did the company say they could build at 22° cheaper than at 35°?
In any case, a staircase would probably make more sense with a 35° pitch, right? Because then the wall would have to be raised, or a well-insulated door installed? Or how do you solve that?
With all other options (L-shape or Kerstin’s example), I still don’t get any further. Some of them seem cramped to me. That’s why I simply find my plan or Steffi’s layouts pleasantly clear and structured. And calling the other options just a haphazard row of rooms might not be quite right either, but they lack charm when you enter: this “door cabinet” effect... And when you think of how much happens in a hallway with a family of four... sometimes chaotic when things need to happen quickly...
Right now I think I just need to properly stage our hallway and have started with a version featuring a wider hallway. But that creates a huge living room... Then I made some adjustments to the living room.
And a version with a side entrance.
Just for fun, here are my unfinished alternatives. And yes, it’s basically just the “railway carriage” modified.
I’m slowly making progress...
A At first, just a different hallway: wider in the entrance area.
B House shorter and wider:
C Side entrance: (which we don’t really want.)
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