ᐅ Planning a Bungalow Floor Plan, Approximately 120 m²

Created on: 29 Mar 2019 12:21
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Lemming&F
Site Plan / Restrictions
Plot Size: approx. 840 m² (2026 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site Occupation Index: -
Floor Area Ratio: -
Building Envelope, Building Line and Boundary: -
Perimeter Development: -
Number of Parking Spaces: -
Number of Floors: -
Roof Type: -
Architectural Style: -
Orientation: -
Maximum Heights / Limits: -
Other Regulations: -

Client Requirements
Architectural Style, Roof Type, Building Type: Modern, hip roof, bungalow
Basement, Floors: no basement, 1 floor
Number of Occupants, Age: 3, 41, 28, 0.5
Space Requirement on Ground Floor: approx. 120 m² (1292 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? sewing, gaming
Overnight Guests per Year: none
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of Dining Seats: 6 - 8
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, Roof Terrace: no
Garage, Carport: carport
Utility Garden, Greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided:
Simple, functional, modern

House Design
Who created the design:
Planner from a construction company based on our specifications
What stands out positively? Why?: large open dining/living area
What is disliked? Why?: I really don’t notice anything negative
Price Estimate according to architect/planner: approx. 200,000 € turnkey
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 250,000 €
Preferred heating technology: air source heat pump

If you have to compromise, which details / features
-can you do without: I don’t think much can be left out here
-can’t you do without: -

Why was the design created as it is now? The design is almost exactly what we planned. Only the room sizes and layout were adjusted.

What is the most important / basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?

I would simply like to know if at first or second glance the layout could be more functional. Thank you very much.

Floor plan of an apartment: kitchen, living/dining, bedrooms, children’s room, office, bathroom, WC, hallway.
11ant1 Apr 2019 18:03
I couldn’t help but smile while reading Yvonne’s descriptions. The families depicted in sitcoms probably wouldn’t actually live in such camera-friendly layouts—this seems to often be overlooked when trying to recreate the living spaces seen in sitcoms and cooking shows.

Although the basic concept of a “loft with a children’s room” isn’t my personal taste, I find it appealing. I’m glad that Leo’s mom is registering here herself, instead of only sharing her thoughts secondhand, which unfortunately happens quite often in forum discussions.

Unfortunately, the principle sketches of the buildings on the plot clearly lack accurate scale in their length-to-width proportions. More realistic drawings would be more valuable for the discussion and would also help Leo’s parents recognize for themselves that it might be reasonable to move away from the rectangular shape.

Moreover, I share the concerns that, no matter how comfortable children are being naked with their parents early on, during puberty they usually find their parents very embarrassing. On the other hand, this is just a phase lasting about two years, and you don’t have to design your whole house around it. After that, there’s a phase where being with a “MILF” mom makes you the king of your class *duck and run*.
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Lemming&F
1 Apr 2019 18:21
11ant schrieb:

Unfortunately, the schematic diagrams of the building structures on the plot lack accurate scale in their length-to-width proportions. If they were drawn more realistically, they would be more useful for the discussion and could also help Leo’s parents better understand the possibility of deviating from a rectangular shape.

I will try to clarify things a bit more tomorrow.

Regards
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ypg
1 Apr 2019 18:29
LeosMama schrieb:
Hello, also lunch break here too

Hmm... I almost feel like this is a subtle criticism—that we should expect some response to our suggestions or criticism from you or the original poster, while of course you’re busy during the day and don’t have time for that.
We also sacrifice our breaks and lunch hours to answer the initial question from the man:
Lemming&F schrieb:
I would just like to know if, at first or second glance, the layout could be made more practical. Thank you very much.

We’re not paid to share our life experience here in the forum, but we also rarely blame anyone for taking our time.

By the way: great username in this case.

Now to the plot:
Lemming&F schrieb:
So, there is no site plan yet. The parcel subdivision is taking some time, and we are trying to complete everything possible in the meantime.
The only real limitation on the plot is its width of about 22 m (72 feet).
Two sides border a street/path. This path is only used to access other properties. Basically, only a cyclist passes by every other day. The other two sides border farmland.
Lemming&F schrieb:
The current plan’s access would be on the north side.

Sounds like a great location. However, missing a site plan does not give a free pass. Usually, you have to leave 5 meters (16 feet) of clearance in front of a carport if it’s adjacent to a street. You also need to be able to drive into a carport, and property access is usually only allowed from a specific side (the one with the house number). Even if your floor area ratio and plot ratio are listed as not applicable, you have to assume that especially in rural areas there are still limits on how much of the plot you can build on. Where I live, even a storage container would not be allowed just because of size… I won’t go into more detail here.
Lemming&F schrieb:
The carport could theoretically only be behind the house if you don’t want to shift the house too far.

No, theoretically it could also be placed on the east side as a boundary building.

Site plan of a plot with house, terrace, carport and storage room

Now look at your drawing: if the property is accessed from the north, how will you park your cars? That’s not well thought out.
And as someone pointed out earlier, this location sacrifices a sunny terrace.
Thinking further, you’re considering cladding a container in the garden.

How about simply reorienting the house and rotating it as an example? I see this is completely wrongly approached, yet you insist on it and accept or sugarcoat all the resulting negatives.
Lemming&F schrieb:
I would like to keep the layout without a hallway.

I would too!
LeosMama schrieb:
Definitely a must, because for us women minimalism only goes so far. The dressing room will be located in front of the sleeping area.

But you realize with these dimensions, even if rotated, it won’t be usable as a walk-in? Please draw in the bed and wardrobe.
LeosMama schrieb:
That means it’s not an ironing room (as was called somewhere) but an office—and it will actually be used as such, not just called one!

Your partner called it a gaming and sewing room.
LeosMama schrieb:
That I bathe and fall naked out of the room only to find myself naked in the kitchen—only good for the relationship. However, if I no longer found my husband attractive (as was mentioned here), I certainly wouldn’t be living with him anymore. That would not be our idea of a relationship.
Leo has known mom and dad naked and openly since birth,

No one doubts that, and you don’t need to share such personal details here, but you also sometimes have visitors… you just need to think a bit further.
LeosMama schrieb:
falling out of the bathroom naked. However, at 9 years old, wearing boxer shorts won’t embarrass him in front of the uncle. Maybe only at 4. But to design a house closed off because of this one age? I don’t think that makes sense.
Regarding the stomach flu—if someone in the family is sick, I don’t invite a house full of people and risk them catching the virus. That argument is not well thought out.

6. Topic Tupperware:
Terrible

Maybe you should try running those examples by yourself first. Sorry these were written spontaneously and not reviewed by a panel of experts.
Nonetheless, these are not made up or far-fetched examples.
Ultimately, 1. It doesn’t matter how old the child—Leo in this case—is; situations can always arise that better planning can avoid.
2. It may not be the uncle, or
3. the boy may have a girlfriend… because you are right: house planning should not be done for just a short period but for a longer one. When Leo moves out, many things will be easier, but now he’s just 0.5 years old, so it could mean
4. you’ll struggle with a nursery behind the kitchen and a bathroom in the central part of the house for 25 years.
And even if you hate Tupperware, use this as a scenario to
5. think about how it is if only one of you has guests.
6. And I’ll burst your bubble: one partner’s leisure activities don’t stop because the other partner is sick or has a virus. Planning must go on—you should know that as someone who works part-time with clients.

Now something constructive:
It would be more relaxed if the kitchen were at the front (right side of the plan), and the seating area in front of the bedrooms. I admit I haven’t looked closely at the house plan.

But to start at the beginning, I would consider rotating the house and placing the carport on the north side. You can’t put it right in the corner but offset it a bit. This would create a southwest-facing garden including a terrace and even a nice seating corner.
It’s only a suggestion. Personally, I would prefer an L-shaped design. And if that doesn’t work, or you insist on sticking to this original situation now, then build the house that way. It’s your house and no one here wants to interfere with your life.
Still, the forum’s combined experience shouldn’t be underestimated.
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ypg
1 Apr 2019 18:46
P.S.
Once you have finalized the space for the carport, meaning you have found the optimal and permitted location, I would suggest making a rough sketch of where the rooms should be positioned and then planning again based on that.

Regarding my suggestion:
ypg schrieb:
It would be more relaxing, for example, if the kitchen is at the front (on the right side of the plan), and the seating area is in front of the bedrooms. But I admit, I haven’t looked at the house plan recently.

Additionally, the bathroom door would be positioned further to the left on the plan – this creates a short path to the bathroom from both bedrooms, where someone standing by the stove or refrigerator would not have a direct view inside.
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Nordlys
1 Apr 2019 18:52
Yvonne, you said what you think, she said what she thinks, and no one needs to justify or defend themselves. The concerns and disadvantages of the concept have been stated. Period.

The suggestion of an angled roof is welcome. However, it should be noted that this will be significantly more expensive because the roof is more costly and the bricklayers require more labor hours. This is just to point out that it is not insignificant. Karsten
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LeosMama
1 Apr 2019 19:19
The comment about the lunch break was not meant to be provocative at all; it was just a greeting to explain why the reply is coming late. It was neither judgmental nor more than a simple hello.

The plot is not subject to any building regulation plan, so there is quite a bit of freedom in the design. If the plot were realized with a carport, the house layout would change accordingly. I will send a picture shortly. However, the house would then be mirrored with a new open floor plan, so the kitchen would be on the opposite side. My friend will prepare a proper and clear drawing tomorrow.

Regarding the walk-in closet: it would be walk-in and can be used without any issues.
As for deeper thinking – everyone has different ideas about that – about thinking and living. I personally fully understand what you are criticizing. However, the question is: where do I set the priority – having a separate corridor so that guests can use the bathroom unnoticed, or can I imagine that my guests will notice this since the loft character is preferred here. Ultimately, I really like the open-plan design.
The experience and suggestions are very important to us, which is why I also thanked everyone for them right at the beginning of my first post. Criticism is always welcome. Of course, there is a specific idea of the dream home (walk-in closet, spacious bathroom, open floor plan, office and guest toilet near the entrance, hidden wardrobe, no additional floors, loft style) which naturally limits and also needs to be taken into account in the overall concept. And then there is that annoying carport that somehow also has to fit in.
This exchange is very valuable to us, helping us to critically review and question things, but also to hold on to aspects we are comfortable with. I look forward to further discussions and am confident and aware that this forum will provide us with very helpful tips along the way.

PS: The picture is very unprofessional, but Leo is not letting me redraw it at the moment. The entrance would be on the west side.

Handgezeichnete Grundrissskizze: Wohnen, Essen, Küche, Bad, Eingang, Terrasse, Carport.