ᐅ Building without detailed execution plans – experiences on whether this is feasible?
Created on: 5 Oct 2018 17:23
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andiro
We had our single-family house planned by an architect up to the building permit stage (design phase 4 included), and the structural engineering is still in progress.
My wife’s aunt (a civil engineer specialized in building construction, retired for about 5 years) has offered to take on the construction management, meaning she would be responsible starting after the design phase, once the permit, structural engineering, and soil report are completed.
The architect has now pointed us to the detailed construction drawings (design phase 5), which would then be prepared by the construction manager.
However, the construction manager says she doesn’t need these drawings and plans to coordinate and clarify everything directly with the various contractors.
The architect says she could still take on the detailed construction planning for a five-figure fee and believes that the approach our construction manager wants to take could lead to problems.
So far, due to numerous delays, we have not been completely satisfied with the architect.
Has anyone here managed a construction project successfully without detailed construction drawings, or is this even possible and workable?
I would be very grateful for any constructive input...
My wife’s aunt (a civil engineer specialized in building construction, retired for about 5 years) has offered to take on the construction management, meaning she would be responsible starting after the design phase, once the permit, structural engineering, and soil report are completed.
The architect has now pointed us to the detailed construction drawings (design phase 5), which would then be prepared by the construction manager.
However, the construction manager says she doesn’t need these drawings and plans to coordinate and clarify everything directly with the various contractors.
The architect says she could still take on the detailed construction planning for a five-figure fee and believes that the approach our construction manager wants to take could lead to problems.
So far, due to numerous delays, we have not been completely satisfied with the architect.
Has anyone here managed a construction project successfully without detailed construction drawings, or is this even possible and workable?
I would be very grateful for any constructive input...
After speaking again with the site manager, she will prepare a simplified version of the construction documentation. She will enlarge the sections from the permit plans (scale 1:100) and add details for specific trades. We will meet regularly and definitely discuss and finalize details before execution (e.g., exact window arrangement, electrical work, plumbing, etc.). Of course, we will need to clarify many things with her frequently, but that is not a problem for us.
As mentioned, since the architect and especially the structural engineer are working extremely slowly and unsatisfactorily, it’s out of the question for us to pay them another five-figure sum only to end up even more dissatisfied.
As mentioned, since the architect and especially the structural engineer are working extremely slowly and unsatisfactorily, it’s out of the question for us to pay them another five-figure sum only to end up even more dissatisfied.
Make sure that when you have plans drawn up in stages, the most current version is always available on site.
This was not the case with our basement, and a window was installed 10cm (4 inches) incorrectly. It was not a major issue and the incorrect position was still acceptable, but having different versions of the plans definitely increases the risk of mistakes.
This was not the case with our basement, and a window was installed 10cm (4 inches) incorrectly. It was not a major issue and the incorrect position was still acceptable, but having different versions of the plans definitely increases the risk of mistakes.
Maria16 schrieb:
Spots and outlets were planned in advance because we had precast concrete slab ceilings. That would also be advisable with "complete" precast slabs, so I don’t see this as a specific feature of "filigree slabs."
andiro schrieb:
She enlarges the sections from the approval planning (1:100) and then adds details for specific trades. That is a feasible approach and should be sufficient. One shouldn’t measure directly from drawings anyway, so when copying (or printing with margins), a scale like 1:52 can occasionally occur.
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