Dear house building forum members,
I am new here and would appreciate creative ideas, opinions, and suggestions regarding our building plot:
Our plans:
Our goal is to build a spacious single-family house (220-240 sqm (2,370-2,580 sq ft)) with a separate apartment (about 60-70 sqm (650-750 sq ft)) for two adults and two small children.
It would be ideal to have a wide/long double garage plus two additional parking spaces in front.
One full floor (plus basement and attic) according to the development plan.
Style: open, modern, minimalist but without extravagant or unnecessary luxury.
Of course, good privacy from neighbors is very important.
Plot size: approx. 920 m² (approx. 7,860 sq ft) = approx. 730 m² (7,860 sq ft) plus approx. 190 m² (2,045 sq ft) driveway.
Development plan:
Site coverage ratio (floor area ratio): 0.3
Gross floor area ratio: 0.5
Open building style
1 full floor
Gable roof 28-38°
Knee wall max. 0.8 m (2.5 ft)
(see attached images)
Additional information / my thoughts:
– Nice plot in Baden-Württemberg with private access road (see photos attached)
– West edge: adjacent to open fields
– Not entirely flat: about 1 to 2 m (3-6 ft) height difference from west to east; sloping downwards to the east
– Plot width (north-south) is 20 m (66 ft).
My questions:
1. Do my plans for the size of our desired house fit within the development plan? Can I build about 300 m² (3,230 sq ft) (house plus separate apartment) there?
(Sorry for asking so simply for reassurance. Based on my calculations and my understanding of site coverage and floor area ratios, it should be possible.)
2. How do you assess the situation? Will it feel relatively “tight” in relation to the two neighboring houses (north and south)?
Theoretically, quite large houses can also be built there according to the development plan (see photos attached).
I know this is a high-level concern, but at this early planning stage, I would like to get your valued and experienced opinions.
For example, where to best position our house within the building zone to be as “safe” as possible, regardless of where and how neighbors may build.
The goal of this discussion at this point is not to develop detailed floor plans, but rather to collect initial assessments and ideas about the best way to build on this plot.
Thank you very much in advance!
If further information is needed, I’m happy to provide it!
Thanks in advance and best regards!
I am new here and would appreciate creative ideas, opinions, and suggestions regarding our building plot:
Our plans:
Our goal is to build a spacious single-family house (220-240 sqm (2,370-2,580 sq ft)) with a separate apartment (about 60-70 sqm (650-750 sq ft)) for two adults and two small children.
It would be ideal to have a wide/long double garage plus two additional parking spaces in front.
One full floor (plus basement and attic) according to the development plan.
Style: open, modern, minimalist but without extravagant or unnecessary luxury.
Of course, good privacy from neighbors is very important.
Plot size: approx. 920 m² (approx. 7,860 sq ft) = approx. 730 m² (7,860 sq ft) plus approx. 190 m² (2,045 sq ft) driveway.
Development plan:
Site coverage ratio (floor area ratio): 0.3
Gross floor area ratio: 0.5
Open building style
1 full floor
Gable roof 28-38°
Knee wall max. 0.8 m (2.5 ft)
(see attached images)
Additional information / my thoughts:
– Nice plot in Baden-Württemberg with private access road (see photos attached)
– West edge: adjacent to open fields
– Not entirely flat: about 1 to 2 m (3-6 ft) height difference from west to east; sloping downwards to the east
– Plot width (north-south) is 20 m (66 ft).
My questions:
1. Do my plans for the size of our desired house fit within the development plan? Can I build about 300 m² (3,230 sq ft) (house plus separate apartment) there?
(Sorry for asking so simply for reassurance. Based on my calculations and my understanding of site coverage and floor area ratios, it should be possible.)
2. How do you assess the situation? Will it feel relatively “tight” in relation to the two neighboring houses (north and south)?
Theoretically, quite large houses can also be built there according to the development plan (see photos attached).
I know this is a high-level concern, but at this early planning stage, I would like to get your valued and experienced opinions.
For example, where to best position our house within the building zone to be as “safe” as possible, regardless of where and how neighbors may build.
The goal of this discussion at this point is not to develop detailed floor plans, but rather to collect initial assessments and ideas about the best way to build on this plot.
Thank you very much in advance!
If further information is needed, I’m happy to provide it!
Thanks in advance and best regards!
Climbee schrieb:
Symmetry in height or vertically? Climbee schrieb:
Horizontally: the refrigerator is on the left, it is 60cm (24 inches) wide, on the right is the door to the pantry, and I need to be able to pass through fully loaded and carrying a baking tray, so 60cm (24 inches) would be too narrow for me. That’s why I used the maximum possible width. Climbee schrieb:
Therefore, the decision to avoid symmetry. Yes, that’s what I meant. I wrote that I prefer a real door. Your pantry door is meant to be hidden, cleverly integrated into the tall cabinets. In my opinion, this was not successful with the asymmetry from wall to wall. Intentional but not well executed, as some critics might say. It seems it doesn’t bother you, so that’s fine.
haydee schrieb:
I don’t think pantries are that important. You just need a storage room. It doesn’t necessarily have to be right next to the kitchen. I see it the same way: the space-saving solution is excellent. But before I would move the waste paper and recycling bins further back, I would place them towards the exit, so when the container where the waste is generated fills up, it’s easy to get to. Where that large (to me unsuitable) door is now, they could have installed the freezer and, if there’s enough space, planned the door around the corner. Could’ve, would’ve... What’s important is that you are happy with it. As I said before, I also like the idea of a backup kitchen, but in my mind it looks different.
Hi everyone!
The revised design is now ready.
See attached pictures!
The house is now two meters (6.5 feet) wider (north-south).
Mainly because of the attic floor, which—due to it being a single story and the low knee wall height (0.8m (2.6 feet))—feels like the main planning bottleneck.
Attic floor: What are your thoughts and suggestions for changes?
Note: as far as I understand, we are very close to the two-thirds rule for a full story (building permit / planning permission) limits. So it can only get bigger if we also increase the ground floor.
The goal for the attic was to create a somewhat "open feeling"—
hence the void space as an attempt to bring in some "airiness."
Ground floor: What do you think?
For example, about the windows and walls? Especially regarding the living and dining area.
Would it be better to open more towards the west? And maybe have a bit more wall on the south side (where the neighbor is quite close)?
Looking forward to your opinions, thoughts, and tips!
Feel free to ask if you have any questions!
Best regards and thanks!
The revised design is now ready.
See attached pictures!
The house is now two meters (6.5 feet) wider (north-south).
Mainly because of the attic floor, which—due to it being a single story and the low knee wall height (0.8m (2.6 feet))—feels like the main planning bottleneck.
Attic floor: What are your thoughts and suggestions for changes?
Note: as far as I understand, we are very close to the two-thirds rule for a full story (building permit / planning permission) limits. So it can only get bigger if we also increase the ground floor.
The goal for the attic was to create a somewhat "open feeling"—
hence the void space as an attempt to bring in some "airiness."
Ground floor: What do you think?
For example, about the windows and walls? Especially regarding the living and dining area.
Would it be better to open more towards the west? And maybe have a bit more wall on the south side (where the neighbor is quite close)?
Looking forward to your opinions, thoughts, and tips!
Feel free to ask if you have any questions!
Best regards and thanks!
Wow, not bad. Apart from the fact that it’s enormous.
Personally, I don’t like the huge light wells for the basement. They ruin the garden. I wouldn’t need the rooms down there anyway, so I wouldn’t include them. But of course, that’s different for everyone.
I think the bathroom isn’t quite perfect yet. You almost walk right into the sinks.
I would also include a laundry chute in the plan. But other than that, it looks good.
Could you tell me again how much it’s supposed to cost?
Personally, I don’t like the huge light wells for the basement. They ruin the garden. I wouldn’t need the rooms down there anyway, so I wouldn’t include them. But of course, that’s different for everyone.
I think the bathroom isn’t quite perfect yet. You almost walk right into the sinks.
I would also include a laundry chute in the plan. But other than that, it looks good.
Could you tell me again how much it’s supposed to cost?
The north facade stands out with a cacophony of window sizes. The view through the large window behind the lounge chair won’t be entirely unobstructed: the reason isn’t the Bossa Nova music, but simply the fall protection at the edge of the light well. Otherwise, I think it can be left as it is. Nothing should be left lying around in the courtyard, as it is fully used as a “wipe zone” during maneuvering operations.
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I haven’t looked into the exact requirements for converting basement rooms into living spaces, but from skimming through it, I don’t like it at all.
In my opinion, the dormers don’t add any value. Whether it’s 19 sqm (205 sq ft) or “only” 16 sqm (172 sq ft)... even with 14 sqm (150 sq ft) you could have nice bedrooms for kids, offices, or whatever. Instead, the single-family house is equipped with unnecessary gimmicks like dormers... plus it even has two light wells in the basement. Somehow, it seems like you’re panicking and worried that the living space might become too tight. Unfortunately, in my opinion, the house doesn’t benefit from this by becoming bigger or more spacious.
Let’s be honest: no one needs a 27+ sqm (290+ sq ft) bathroom on the upper floor. On the ground floor (I’m well known for being a true fan of having enough closet space for plenty of family members), this square, nicely shaped area tends to become more of a mess... maybe close it off but keep in mind the corridor width when doing so.
The pantry is well positioned (finally planned properly and not just tacked on in a row). I find the kitchen too large to be practical for cooking. Unfortunately, the living room is no longer a proper room, just an open corner. Looking at it more relaxed, to me the living area feels too overshadowed compared to the dining area.
In my opinion, the dormers don’t add any value. Whether it’s 19 sqm (205 sq ft) or “only” 16 sqm (172 sq ft)... even with 14 sqm (150 sq ft) you could have nice bedrooms for kids, offices, or whatever. Instead, the single-family house is equipped with unnecessary gimmicks like dormers... plus it even has two light wells in the basement. Somehow, it seems like you’re panicking and worried that the living space might become too tight. Unfortunately, in my opinion, the house doesn’t benefit from this by becoming bigger or more spacious.
Let’s be honest: no one needs a 27+ sqm (290+ sq ft) bathroom on the upper floor. On the ground floor (I’m well known for being a true fan of having enough closet space for plenty of family members), this square, nicely shaped area tends to become more of a mess... maybe close it off but keep in mind the corridor width when doing so.
The pantry is well positioned (finally planned properly and not just tacked on in a row). I find the kitchen too large to be practical for cooking. Unfortunately, the living room is no longer a proper room, just an open corner. Looking at it more relaxed, to me the living area feels too overshadowed compared to the dining area.
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