ᐅ Building plan for 160 m² of living space with a gable roof – any suggestions for improvements?
Created on: 31 May 2019 10:08
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Neovoalex
Hello everyone,
What do you think of our plan?
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
548m² (5897 sq ft) – 19m (62 ft) wide, 24m (79 ft) long
Slope
none
Site coverage ratio
0.40
Floor area ratio
1.0
Building setback, building line, and boundary
5m (16 ft) from the street
Edge development
Number of parking spaces
2
Number of floors
2 full stories
Roof style
Gable roof 35°
Architectural style
Orientation
does not matter
Maximum height / limits
7.30m (24 ft) high
Further requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type
Gable roof, 2 full stories
Basement, floors
no basement – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages
4 persons – 2x 32 years, 2x 3 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors
80m² (860 sq ft) per floor due to L-Bank
Overnight guests per year
3
Conservative or modern construction
modern
Open kitchen, cooking island
yes, yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
yes – prepared for
Balcony, roof terrace
terrace, roof terrace on garage
Garage
House Design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
What do you especially like? Why?
Utility room is outside the house, more space for living area
What do you dislike? Why?
Bathroom, wanted to include a sauna, but passage between sink and bathtub is only 66cm (26 inches) wide (see attachment 3)
Estimated price according to architect/planner:
not yet available
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures:
430,000
Preferred heating system:
heat pump
If you had to compromise, on which details/features?
- Actually, we cannot give up anything because it has already been cut back significantly
Why does the design look like it does now? Example:
The house was originally designed larger by my sister’s planner, together with the planner. It was then reduced to 160m² (1722 sq ft) living space.
What is the main/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
We are financing with L-Bank, so only 160m² (1722 sq ft) of living space is allowed. We tried to include everything we want.
What do you think about the design? What can be changed or better distributed?
In the third attachment is the bathroom with sauna, but the passage is difficult. Do you have any ideas on how to design the bathroom so everything fits?
We are not sure which terrace windows to choose, so the alternatives are shown upstairs.
The terrace faces the garden and west.
Thank you very much in advance
What do you think of our plan?
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
548m² (5897 sq ft) – 19m (62 ft) wide, 24m (79 ft) long
Slope
none
Site coverage ratio
0.40
Floor area ratio
1.0
Building setback, building line, and boundary
5m (16 ft) from the street
Edge development
Number of parking spaces
2
Number of floors
2 full stories
Roof style
Gable roof 35°
Architectural style
Orientation
does not matter
Maximum height / limits
7.30m (24 ft) high
Further requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type
Gable roof, 2 full stories
Basement, floors
no basement – 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages
4 persons – 2x 32 years, 2x 3 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors
80m² (860 sq ft) per floor due to L-Bank
Overnight guests per year
3
Conservative or modern construction
modern
Open kitchen, cooking island
yes, yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
yes – prepared for
Balcony, roof terrace
terrace, roof terrace on garage
Garage
House Design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
What do you especially like? Why?
Utility room is outside the house, more space for living area
What do you dislike? Why?
Bathroom, wanted to include a sauna, but passage between sink and bathtub is only 66cm (26 inches) wide (see attachment 3)
Estimated price according to architect/planner:
not yet available
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures:
430,000
Preferred heating system:
heat pump
If you had to compromise, on which details/features?
- Actually, we cannot give up anything because it has already been cut back significantly
Why does the design look like it does now? Example:
The house was originally designed larger by my sister’s planner, together with the planner. It was then reduced to 160m² (1722 sq ft) living space.
What is the main/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
We are financing with L-Bank, so only 160m² (1722 sq ft) of living space is allowed. We tried to include everything we want.
What do you think about the design? What can be changed or better distributed?
In the third attachment is the bathroom with sauna, but the passage is difficult. Do you have any ideas on how to design the bathroom so everything fits?
We are not sure which terrace windows to choose, so the alternatives are shown upstairs.
The terrace faces the garden and west.
Thank you very much in advance
I would paint the roof terrace. Since the garage is built on the boundary line, it might be that even with a 3m (10 feet) distance from the terrace, the whole setup is not likely to get building permit / planning permission. At the same time, how often do you actually use a roof terrace if you have a nice garden terrace?
hanse987 schrieb:
I would reconsider the roof terrace. Since the garage is built on the boundary line, it might be that even a 3 m (10 feet) distance from the terrace is not approvable. It’s not a matter of might, it simply isn’t allowed. A roof terrace on a boundary line building is not permitted. Besides, a roof terrace is redundant if there is a garden.
What are the dimensions? I’m wondering if the living room wall is about 5 meters (16 feet), and the dining room 4 meters (13 feet). Then 3 x 4 meters (10 x 13 feet) in the dining area would just be enough for a rectangular table. The pantry access will look different than in the photo since a side-by-side fridge is shown there.
For the guest WC, it might be better to place the window on the east side so that people ringing the doorbell aren’t immediately surprised by any noises. Then, a shower could be installed in the niche (wall at 90 degrees). The partition wall between house and garage should be straightened out; it’s unclear why there’s a step there. The garage-to-house door takes up space and seems redundant because the main entrance door is right there. Which wall is the upper floor adapted to? Something must be off in that corner…
The front-facing windows don’t exactly invite you in either…
Anyway, consider why rectangular rooms are built or if you prefer to be surprised by what the bricklayer makes of these walls. There is a potential for mistakes. Usable floor space is reduced, and furniture is generally designed for 90-degree corners. Dirty corners will form everywhere.
On the upper floor: if the chimney is moved into a child’s room, the corridor can be made narrower (ideally rectangular), and the rooms on the right side become more functional. The bedroom is accessed through the walk-in closet with a straight wall. The shower could be placed next to the bathtub behind the door, allowing space for a sauna. The garage seems to be over 4 meters (13 feet) wide, so a small corner exit could be planned from the bathroom onto the garage roof.
Neovoalex schrieb:
The house was based on a larger design my sister created together with the planner. It was simply reduced to 160m² (1,722 sq ft) of living space.This detail does not sound familiar to me – did you perhaps not mention it in the green forum?Reductions rarely turn out well and often lead to bottlenecks, folds, and similar issues. Changing the size but keeping the same layout usually causes problems – a small consolation is that the same applies, more or less, when enlarging.
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Why finance through L-Bank?
Where is north?
Is there a plan with dimensions?
1st view, similar to Hampshire, not too bad
2nd view, someone seems to have a preference for slanted walls and a phobia of 90-degree corners
3rd view, dimensions are missing and no scaled furniture has been drawn in yet
Make sure to add these
Ground floor
Paint the door to the garage
Storage – what is going to be stored here? Please add furniture, freezer
Make the door wider because water crates, filled folding crates, etc. will be carried through
Draw in the stove
A proper dining table might be tight
Do you really need the home office at this size?
The utility room location is inconvenient and expensive
The walk-in closet is quite narrow; 75 cm (30 inches) between the wardrobes in rough construction measurements is very little.
Straighten the bathroom, bedroom, and utility room
The bathroom is quite small for a family bathroom and sauna. 66 cm (26 inches) is tight
I would integrate the building services (mechanical room) into the house and remove the slanted walls
Carport with a proper storage room
Possibly give up the cramped walk-in closet to make the bedroom larger
Where is north?
Is there a plan with dimensions?
1st view, similar to Hampshire, not too bad
2nd view, someone seems to have a preference for slanted walls and a phobia of 90-degree corners
3rd view, dimensions are missing and no scaled furniture has been drawn in yet
Make sure to add these
Ground floor
Paint the door to the garage
Storage – what is going to be stored here? Please add furniture, freezer
Make the door wider because water crates, filled folding crates, etc. will be carried through
Draw in the stove
A proper dining table might be tight
Do you really need the home office at this size?
The utility room location is inconvenient and expensive
The walk-in closet is quite narrow; 75 cm (30 inches) between the wardrobes in rough construction measurements is very little.
Straighten the bathroom, bedroom, and utility room
The bathroom is quite small for a family bathroom and sauna. 66 cm (26 inches) is tight
I would integrate the building services (mechanical room) into the house and remove the slanted walls
Carport with a proper storage room
Possibly give up the cramped walk-in closet to make the bedroom larger
ypg schrieb:
That can’t be true, it is like that. Roof terraces on boundary constructions are not allowed.
A roof terrace is also unnecessary if you have a garden. I have to disagree; it varies not only by state but even by local building authority (at least according to our building office).
In our case, a roof terrace up to 3m (10 feet) away from the neighbor is permitted on a 6m (20 feet) wide garage built on the boundary.
We just didn’t build it at first, and after living in the house for two years, the desire for it is still quite limited...
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