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Exilhamburger12 Jan 2013 17:07Hello,
I can purchase a plot of land of about 350 square meters (3,767 square feet). It is 15.46 meters (51 feet) wide. From the width, the access driveway next to the house must be deducted, as there is another house in the third row.
The house will have approximately 125-130 square meters (1,345-1,400 square feet) of living space.
The house will be roughly 9 by 9 meters (30 by 30 feet). That doesn’t leave much space. Could someone please give me a brief opinion on this?
Price of the land is 150,000 euros.
If I have calculated correctly, that leaves about 6 meters (20 feet) for the terrace and garden, right?
Thanks for the help.
I can purchase a plot of land of about 350 square meters (3,767 square feet). It is 15.46 meters (51 feet) wide. From the width, the access driveway next to the house must be deducted, as there is another house in the third row.
The house will have approximately 125-130 square meters (1,345-1,400 square feet) of living space.
The house will be roughly 9 by 9 meters (30 by 30 feet). That doesn’t leave much space. Could someone please give me a brief opinion on this?
Price of the land is 150,000 euros.
If I have calculated correctly, that leaves about 6 meters (20 feet) for the terrace and garden, right?
Thanks for the help.
Answer yes... that would be way too small for us.
If you’re lucky, the setback areas (usually 3 meters (10 feet) on each side) will allow it. You need to check the zoning plan for more details. Then you could just squeeze a 9-meter (30 feet) wide house onto the lot.
It also depends on the width of the driveway. If it has to be more than 3 meters (10 feet) wide, forget about it. Besides, I wouldn’t want a driveway for others crossing my property.
We were told that for a detached single-family house, the lot should be at least 400 square meters (4,300 square feet). Anything smaller is pointless. Looking at those tiny “handkerchief-sized” plots in new developments, I’m glad we found something else. We simply moved 20 kilometers (12 miles) further out into the countryside. In Karlsruhe, prices are about 500 €/m², 20 kilometers (12 miles) further in the Palatinate region it’s around 200 €/m², and we eventually found a gap in the village center for 130 €/m².
Sometimes, waiting is worth it.
If you want a garden where a child can actually play ball, the lot has to be much bigger. That size is only enough for a flower bed.
If you’re lucky, the setback areas (usually 3 meters (10 feet) on each side) will allow it. You need to check the zoning plan for more details. Then you could just squeeze a 9-meter (30 feet) wide house onto the lot.
It also depends on the width of the driveway. If it has to be more than 3 meters (10 feet) wide, forget about it. Besides, I wouldn’t want a driveway for others crossing my property.
We were told that for a detached single-family house, the lot should be at least 400 square meters (4,300 square feet). Anything smaller is pointless. Looking at those tiny “handkerchief-sized” plots in new developments, I’m glad we found something else. We simply moved 20 kilometers (12 miles) further out into the countryside. In Karlsruhe, prices are about 500 €/m², 20 kilometers (12 miles) further in the Palatinate region it’s around 200 €/m², and we eventually found a gap in the village center for 130 €/m².
Sometimes, waiting is worth it.
If you want a garden where a child can actually play ball, the lot has to be much bigger. That size is only enough for a flower bed.
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Micha&Dany13 Jan 2013 08:16Hello!
Whether the plot is too small or not depends entirely on your personal feelings—and of course, your budget.
With 350 sqm (3,767 sq ft) and a width of about 15.5 m (51 feet), the plot is approximately 22.5 m (74 feet) long. If you subtract the driveway (assuming a width of 3 m (10 feet), running along the entire length of the plot) and at least 3 m (10 feet) of setback on the other side of the house, you could probably build a 9 x 9 m (30 x 30 feet) house.
After accounting for the front yard, garage, and so on, you would have roughly 125 sqm (1,345 sq ft) left for garden and terrace. That means about 12.5 m (41 feet) wide and 10 m (33 feet) deep.
Personally, I would find the driveway bothersome. The size would be at the lower limit but still acceptable for me (just my opinion). However, for me, it would also be important to consider the surrounding buildings. My plot is about 420 sqm (4,520 sq ft), I have no driveway on my property, and right behind my garden the forest begins. This makes the plot feel completely different than if the next house stood directly behind the garden.
You have to remember that the garden also needs to be maintained. Always. Whether you feel like it or not. The bigger the garden, the more work it requires.
Also keep in mind that the plot you choose will be where you live for the rest of your life—or at least the next 20 to 30 years!
Best regards,
Micha
Whether the plot is too small or not depends entirely on your personal feelings—and of course, your budget.
With 350 sqm (3,767 sq ft) and a width of about 15.5 m (51 feet), the plot is approximately 22.5 m (74 feet) long. If you subtract the driveway (assuming a width of 3 m (10 feet), running along the entire length of the plot) and at least 3 m (10 feet) of setback on the other side of the house, you could probably build a 9 x 9 m (30 x 30 feet) house.
After accounting for the front yard, garage, and so on, you would have roughly 125 sqm (1,345 sq ft) left for garden and terrace. That means about 12.5 m (41 feet) wide and 10 m (33 feet) deep.
Personally, I would find the driveway bothersome. The size would be at the lower limit but still acceptable for me (just my opinion). However, for me, it would also be important to consider the surrounding buildings. My plot is about 420 sqm (4,520 sq ft), I have no driveway on my property, and right behind my garden the forest begins. This makes the plot feel completely different than if the next house stood directly behind the garden.
You have to remember that the garden also needs to be maintained. Always. Whether you feel like it or not. The bigger the garden, the more work it requires.
Also keep in mind that the plot you choose will be where you live for the rest of your life—or at least the next 20 to 30 years!
Best regards,
Micha
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Informatik113 Jan 2013 13:40350 sqm (3,767 sq ft) => Width 15.46 m (51 ft) x Length 22.64 m (74 ft)
Width 15.46 m (51 ft) => 3 m (10 ft) clearance + 9 m (30 ft) house + 3.46 m (11.4 ft) driveway (an SUV is already 2.3 m (7.5 ft); if a moving truck needs to go to the neighbor -> truck >2.5 m (8.2 ft))
Length 22.64 m (74 ft) => 3 m (10 ft) clearance + 9 m (30 ft) house + 4.64 m (15 ft) terrace + 3 m (10 ft) carport + 3 m (10 ft) clearance
You also have to consider that you need to be able to drive into the carport somehow -> so it cannot start directly at the edge of the driveway (due to the turning radius of a car). This means on the 3 m (10 ft) carport there is a 6 m (20 ft) section for the carport and then the driveway space.
[OT]Why do you actually have to pay for the neighbor’s driveway? In my experience, easements usually work so that a main owner leaves access for the buyer of the rear property when subdividing land.[/OT]
Width 15.46 m (51 ft) => 3 m (10 ft) clearance + 9 m (30 ft) house + 3.46 m (11.4 ft) driveway (an SUV is already 2.3 m (7.5 ft); if a moving truck needs to go to the neighbor -> truck >2.5 m (8.2 ft))
Length 22.64 m (74 ft) => 3 m (10 ft) clearance + 9 m (30 ft) house + 4.64 m (15 ft) terrace + 3 m (10 ft) carport + 3 m (10 ft) clearance
You also have to consider that you need to be able to drive into the carport somehow -> so it cannot start directly at the edge of the driveway (due to the turning radius of a car). This means on the 3 m (10 ft) carport there is a 6 m (20 ft) section for the carport and then the driveway space.
[OT]Why do you actually have to pay for the neighbor’s driveway? In my experience, easements usually work so that a main owner leaves access for the buyer of the rear property when subdividing land.[/OT]
Usually, your development plan should specify how large your house is allowed to be. It often comes down to supply and demand as well as personal preference. Here, the cost per square meter is 750 € (about 70 USD). So, 350 sqm (about 3,770 sq ft) is a lot because it’s expensive. There are also hardly any building plots available here, so you take almost anything that’s offered. Such a personal decision cannot be made for you by any forum.
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