Hello everyone,
Originally, I planned to have a metal garage, but my wife didn’t like that idea. Therefore, the garage will be built from sand-lime bricks, as it is difficult to find something in the desired size.
The garage will be built directly on the property line and is planned to be 10 meters (33 feet) wide, 9 meters (30 feet) long, and 3 meters (10 feet) high.
I want to have the foundation slab constructed together with the house, but we will handle the "building" ourselves.
Two things are still unclear to me:
How should I build the flat roof (concrete slabs, wood, metal) given the large spans?
How do I construct the lintel for the garage door? The front should have as much opening space as possible so that it’s possible to drive in the middle when working on the car.
I assume that a structural engineer will need to calculate the static loads?
By the way, the construction site is in NRW.
Thank you very much for any advice.
Originally, I planned to have a metal garage, but my wife didn’t like that idea. Therefore, the garage will be built from sand-lime bricks, as it is difficult to find something in the desired size.
The garage will be built directly on the property line and is planned to be 10 meters (33 feet) wide, 9 meters (30 feet) long, and 3 meters (10 feet) high.
I want to have the foundation slab constructed together with the house, but we will handle the "building" ourselves.
Two things are still unclear to me:
How should I build the flat roof (concrete slabs, wood, metal) given the large spans?
How do I construct the lintel for the garage door? The front should have as much opening space as possible so that it’s possible to drive in the middle when working on the car.
I assume that a structural engineer will need to calculate the static loads?
By the way, the construction site is in NRW.
Thank you very much for any advice.
angoletti1 schrieb:
You will need a building permit / planning permission anyway, so you also need someone authorized to submit building applications. I see this as the key to success. Have a proper plan made: 1) You need it for the building permit / planning permission; 2) The execution details are described, which you as a layperson might try to figure out yourself (no offense!); 3) Based on a plan, you can obtain quotes that are easier to compare; 4) All trades work toward the same goal because there is a clear specification.
Usually, you don’t just get into a car and drive off without a destination or plan!
For our design (even though it was permit-exempt), we paid almost 1000 euros (about $1,100). It was money well spent and everyone worked accordingly. I would do it again since I am also a layperson.
11ant schrieb:
Your question about the garage now probably means that the building permission for the property within the noise protection restricted zone, which we talked about some time ago, has been approved?Yes --> https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/31110/page-5#post-329354
Thanks for all the advice! Very helpful. I have to admit, I'm having a bit of trouble finding the right professional for the garage project. Ideally, I think it would be best to submit the building permit applications for the house and garage at the same time. But maybe I’ll find a prefab garage supplier who can install a garage for 10,000 euros.
I’m really trying to find the cheapest solution (for me), since I don't want to spend too much on a garage — it’s just for the car and some storage.
querys_ schrieb:
But maybe I’ll still find a prefabricated garage supplier who can build the garage for 10,000 euros. You’d be better off playing the lottery and paying the difference to get to your dream price from the winnings – you won’t wish that price away, even with your own labor. Apart from avoiding today’s market prices for premium garages caused by the boom, building it yourself alone won’t make it much cheaper. The savings are more in the range of a discount, not a significant reduction or at least half the cost, as many dreamers hope.
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angoletti117 Sep 2019 14:12querys_ schrieb:
But maybe I can still find a prefabricated garage supplier who will install the garage for 10,000 euros (about 10,900 dollars).
I’m really trying to find the cheapest solution (for me) since I don’t want to spend too much on a garage—it’s just for the car and some stuff anyway. Better spend your time on something enjoyable, like walking along the river.
Right now, everything you touch in the construction industry is just expensive. There are no bargains; the question is which supplier offers the smallest additional surcharge. They definitely won’t start with a 10,000 figure.
Not very fun as a buyer or builder, but that’s the reality.
angoletti1 schrieb:
Currently, everything you touch in the construction industry is just expensive. There are no bargains; the question is more about which provider charges the lowest extra-extra surcharge. They definitely don't start with a 10.... upfront.
As a buyer or builder, it’s not very enjoyable, but that’s how it is. I’ve noticed that too. I even looked into lightweight steel structures, but they are too large. Although you no longer pay loan interest, the construction sector still takes a big cut.
Oh dear, if interest rates rise significantly again...
I can share my current prices since I’m still fully involved in the project. It’s a garage with a carport, totaling about 49.x sqm (around 530 sq ft) with a pitched roof (15°) and concrete roof tiles matching the main house:
What still needs to be done is interior and exterior plastering, paving inside, ceiling (probably drywall), and electrical sub-distribution.
Our neighbors mainly prefer prefabricated garages and pay around 15,000 to 20,000.
We want to stay under 25,000. It’s more expensive but solid, custom, and well-done.
- Planning was already mentioned
- 12,000 for the shell construction – 24 cm (9.5 inch) Poroton blocks including foundation, ring beam, T-beams, roof frame
- 1,500 for wood paneling, counter battens, and roof battens
- 1,500 for roof tiles and verge tiles
- 600 for a trusted roofer friend
- 400 to 500 for gutters, eaves caps, and small miscellaneous items
- 1,700 for the side entrance door and garage door
- 200 for the wooden structure of the gable
- 250 for roof insulation and attic ladder (from an online marketplace – otherwise about 600)
What still needs to be done is interior and exterior plastering, paving inside, ceiling (probably drywall), and electrical sub-distribution.
Our neighbors mainly prefer prefabricated garages and pay around 15,000 to 20,000.
We want to stay under 25,000. It’s more expensive but solid, custom, and well-done.
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