ᐅ Build a house with a knee wall of 75 cm (30 inches) or two full stories? Your opinion?
Created on: 9 Jun 2018 06:32
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Donradon
Hello,
according to the building plan, we are allowed to build either a house with a knee wall up to 75cm (30 inches) or two full stories.
Therefore, we are currently considering the following two options.
- House with a 75cm (30 inches) knee wall, a 45-degree roof pitch, and a dormer with a flat roof
- House with two full stories, a gable roof with approximately 22-degree roof pitch
We are building without a basement and therefore rely on storage space in the attic. For this reason, a Tuscan-style house is probably out of the question.
I won’t go into our pros and cons here, as I’d like to hear your opinions first.
Oh, and since we plan a utility room and an office on the ground floor, there will be no space issues upstairs in either option.
Good luck and thanks in advance!
according to the building plan, we are allowed to build either a house with a knee wall up to 75cm (30 inches) or two full stories.
Therefore, we are currently considering the following two options.
- House with a 75cm (30 inches) knee wall, a 45-degree roof pitch, and a dormer with a flat roof
- House with two full stories, a gable roof with approximately 22-degree roof pitch
We are building without a basement and therefore rely on storage space in the attic. For this reason, a Tuscan-style house is probably out of the question.
I won’t go into our pros and cons here, as I’d like to hear your opinions first.
Oh, and since we plan a utility room and an office on the ground floor, there will be no space issues upstairs in either option.
Good luck and thanks in advance!
K
Knallkörper9 Jun 2018 15:05I would usually always prefer a gable roof with a knee wall, but the 75 cm (30 inches) requirement is simply too little. Here we have 1.14 m (45 inches), which is quite nice and enough space for a bed and other furniture along the wall. We have a sauna upstairs where you can comfortably sit under the sloped ceiling.
Anything under 1 m (39 inches) is totally impractical.
Anything under 1 m (39 inches) is totally impractical.
I had my childhood and teenage bedroom in a house without a knee wall. The carpenter built fitted wardrobes up to one meter (3 feet) high to partition the space, with additional cabinets behind them. With a roof pitch of 45 degrees, I see no issue in going further, for example by creating a storage room behind a wardrobe in the bedroom.
In my opinion, a house with a low knee wall also looks much more appealing.
Personally, I am not a fan of having a terrace directly in front of a tall, flat wall and feeling overwhelmed by the bulk of the building. I experienced that before and never want it again.
In my opinion, a house with a low knee wall also looks much more appealing.
Personally, I am not a fan of having a terrace directly in front of a tall, flat wall and feeling overwhelmed by the bulk of the building. I experienced that before and never want it again.
ruppsn schrieb:
Does this mean that the development plan contains a formal defect and would therefore be invalid? This could be legally challenged. The city planners will probably defend themselves by referring to the transitional provisions, which cite the earlier definition of a full storey in the 1998 BayBO. In my opinion, however, this is not a proper way to work.
Escroda schrieb:
The full-story concept was already abolished in Bavaria eleven years ago. And does that reduce legal certainty? – Does this now make all floors count as stories, or must living spaces in basements and sloped roofs generally avoid full standing height?
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11ant schrieb:
And does that reduce legal certainty? I believe it does! A term defined in one legal regulation (BayBO) is removed with the expectation that it will be included in another regulation (land use ordinance / zoning bylaw). But it isn’t. The term continues to be used anyway. Now practitioners have to go on a scavenger hunt: from the development plan to the land use ordinance, from there to the current state building code, then to the old state building code, and back to the development plan.
11ant schrieb:
Does this now make all floors countable as stories, or must you generally avoid living space with standing height in the basement and sloped roof areas? ... and exactly these questions are interpreted differently by everyone involved, so in the end courts have to be called on, just because the lawmakers didn’t do their homework properly.
Sorry, I’m getting off track. This is probably irrelevant here anyway, since the planners are working based on the old definition of a full story, and two full stories are permitted here regardless of whether or not there are sloped ceilings, and the dimensions do not allow for an attic with debatable proportions to develop.
Escroda schrieb:
However, the term is still being used. So you mean only the definition was "abolished"?
:-(
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