Hello, after months of comparing and obtaining several quotes, we think we have found the right solution. It will be a prefabricated house.
What still concerns me is whether we have budgeted the costs correctly.
Budget: 370,000€
House offer with foundation slab (we do not want a basement):
192,000€ for 146m² (1571 sq ft) with some work to be done by ourselves (flooring, wallpapering, plumbing fixtures, floors, doors)
Material for self-performed work, according to the house provider: 13,000€ (seems a bit low to me?)
Additional cost for possible upgrades to the standard house features: 5,000€
Land with notary fees: 96,500€
Additional construction-related costs (site services, permits, etc.): 30,000€
Kitchen: 10,000€
Furniture: we already have everything
Garage: not planned for now
Heater or stove: no idea, estimated 1,000€
This leaves 35,000€ for other expenses (terrace and garden work to be done ourselves).
Is this realistic?
What still concerns me is whether we have budgeted the costs correctly.
Budget: 370,000€
House offer with foundation slab (we do not want a basement):
192,000€ for 146m² (1571 sq ft) with some work to be done by ourselves (flooring, wallpapering, plumbing fixtures, floors, doors)
Material for self-performed work, according to the house provider: 13,000€ (seems a bit low to me?)
Additional cost for possible upgrades to the standard house features: 5,000€
Land with notary fees: 96,500€
Additional construction-related costs (site services, permits, etc.): 30,000€
Kitchen: 10,000€
Furniture: we already have everything
Garage: not planned for now
Heater or stove: no idea, estimated 1,000€
This leaves 35,000€ for other expenses (terrace and garden work to be done ourselves).
Is this realistic?
off Topic:
I don’t like it when derogatory terms (here: grease island) from another forum are brought over here. These terms often come from conservative architects who rigorously reject all trendy ideas and consider themselves the ultimate authorities in architecture.
Regarding the budget question, it doesn’t really matter whether the stove is placed in the island or against the wall, except that you might save a few dollars on a suspended range hood.
If you build the island deeper than 60 cm (24 inches), grease won’t splatter anywhere other than it would with a stove against the wall. At least, only the surface behind it needs extra cleaning, but then no backsplash is required.
Planning for 30,000 in incidental construction costs is a good figure! 🙂
toxicmolotow schrieb:
Do you mean a cooktop island or a grease island? We also considered something like that for a while but decided against it during planning.
I don’t like it when derogatory terms (here: grease island) from another forum are brought over here. These terms often come from conservative architects who rigorously reject all trendy ideas and consider themselves the ultimate authorities in architecture.
Regarding the budget question, it doesn’t really matter whether the stove is placed in the island or against the wall, except that you might save a few dollars on a suspended range hood.
If you build the island deeper than 60 cm (24 inches), grease won’t splatter anywhere other than it would with a stove against the wall. At least, only the surface behind it needs extra cleaning, but then no backsplash is required.
Planning for 30,000 in incidental construction costs is a good figure! 🙂
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Bauexperte22 Sep 2014 12:39Hello,
Is the plot located in a newly developed residential area or in an established neighborhood?
Budget: €370,000
Plot with notary fees: €96,500
Even the “ready-to-finish” price seems low for the Baden-Württemberg region; not to mention the costs for the slab foundation, which are almost worthless without knowing a soil survey.
I read through the attached PDF; compared to my list of additional construction costs, there is a huge difference. In particular, your list does not include architect fees, which I usually assume are covered by the sales price. This is different for many prefab house suppliers, but my list should be understood as requiring that—besides painting, flooring, and outdoor facilities—the necessary architecture costs must also be included.
I would recommend asking what exactly is covered under the item “architectural services.” Does it only include fees up to the building permit/planning permission or also detailed execution planning and structural engineering?
You can easily verify the projected costs for public utility connections (according to the provider) by requesting quotes from the local energy suppliers or municipal utilities. I suspect these costs may also be underestimated.
I don’t really think so 😉
For comparison, if I had to estimate roughly, my calculation would look like this:
Budget: €370,000
Plot: €95,070
Single-family house 146m² (1,570 sq ft) / KfW 70 standard and turnkey (including slab foundation, but excluding painting and flooring): €234,000
Additional construction costs: €35,000–40,000
Kitchen: €14,000
Contingency for extras: €10,000
Painting as DIY: €10,000
Flooring as DIY: €10,000
Outdoor facilities as DIY: €10,000 (bare minimum)
This results in a shortfall of about €53,070.
Best regards, Bauexperte
Is the plot located in a newly developed residential area or in an established neighborhood?
Budget: €370,000
Plot with notary fees: €96,500
Pompeya schrieb:
Offer for house with slab foundation (we don’t want a basement)
€192,000 for 146m² (1,570 sq ft) with work we have to do ourselves (flooring, wallpapering, sanitary installations, floors, doors)
Materials for DIY work: according to the house provider, €13,000 (seems a bit tight to me?)
Even the “ready-to-finish” price seems low for the Baden-Württemberg region; not to mention the costs for the slab foundation, which are almost worthless without knowing a soil survey.
Pompeya schrieb:
Additional construction costs: €30,000
I read through the attached PDF; compared to my list of additional construction costs, there is a huge difference. In particular, your list does not include architect fees, which I usually assume are covered by the sales price. This is different for many prefab house suppliers, but my list should be understood as requiring that—besides painting, flooring, and outdoor facilities—the necessary architecture costs must also be included.
I would recommend asking what exactly is covered under the item “architectural services.” Does it only include fees up to the building permit/planning permission or also detailed execution planning and structural engineering?
You can easily verify the projected costs for public utility connections (according to the provider) by requesting quotes from the local energy suppliers or municipal utilities. I suspect these costs may also be underestimated.
Pompeya schrieb:
There are still €35,000 left for other expenses (terrace and garden DIY)
Is that realistic?
I don’t really think so 😉
For comparison, if I had to estimate roughly, my calculation would look like this:
Budget: €370,000
Plot: €95,070
Single-family house 146m² (1,570 sq ft) / KfW 70 standard and turnkey (including slab foundation, but excluding painting and flooring): €234,000
Additional construction costs: €35,000–40,000
Kitchen: €14,000
Contingency for extras: €10,000
Painting as DIY: €10,000
Flooring as DIY: €10,000
Outdoor facilities as DIY: €10,000 (bare minimum)
This results in a shortfall of about €53,070.
Best regards, Bauexperte