ᐅ BEV – Battery Electric Vehicle Experiences and Recommendations

Created on: 23 Jan 2025 15:14
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Tolentino
Dear forum members,

I know this is a homebuilding forum, but relevant car forums tend to be either very brand-loyal or strongly critical of battery electric vehicles (BEVs). Since I assume there is a significant overlap between homeowners and BEV owners, I’m posting my question here. I chose this subforum because it seemed somewhat related—discussing household technology felt off topic.

I’ll soon be returning my ZOE and am currently exploring options for a replacement. It should again be a small to compact car, with 80-90% urban driving and average daily distances of about 25 km (15.5 miles). Occasionally, I drive 40-50 km (25-31 miles) in the city (about once a month) and very rarely 180 km (112 miles) on highways and country roads.

Absolute exclusions:
Tesla, for ethical reasons
Vehicles with a new price over 50,000 EUR (approx. $53,000), because the financing rate would be too high

Less preferred:
VW Group cars
Obvious SUVs
Another ZOE

Models I am interested in:
Renault 5 (possibly too new and expensive)
Hyundai Kona Electric (this is my upper limit for SUV styling)
MG4
Opel Corsa-e (though it didn’t perform well in ADAC tests)

Mainly looking for personal experience reports.

So, please share your thoughts—thanks in advance!
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wiltshire
25 Jan 2025 10:29
Peugeot offers the 2008 model within your desired price range. In terms of size, it should still be suitable. The cockpit layout is unusual. I found the driving experience excellent.
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nordanney
25 Jan 2025 10:31
Tolentino schrieb:

For me, it is an unbearable trend that symbolically represents a shift toward individualism over social compatibility.

Then just call the cars tall estate cars. They are not a trend, just more practical. On average, they are not longer or wider than other cars, only a bit taller.
Tolentino25 Jan 2025 10:33
If I end up with one like that, I will probably call it that.
The raised part (not the roofline, but the front apron) is actually what makes them so dangerous for pedestrians. Ideally, it’s even fitted with a bull bar.
Tolentino25 Jan 2025 10:35
wiltshire schrieb:

Peugeot offers the 2008 within your desired price range. The size should still be suitable. The cockpit layout is unusual. I found the driving experience excellent.
It would have to be the e-2008, and currently, the earliest you can get one is from 239 (with 5,000 km). But thanks for the suggestion.
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Arauki11
25 Jan 2025 12:35
Tolentino schrieb:

SUVs are often associated with big, bulky vehicles driven by older men who pay little attention to other road users, acting as if they have built-in right of way and don’t need to use their indicators. Yes, that may be a stereotype, but my experience has often confirmed it.
To me, they are unnecessary and just a clear case of effective manipulative marketing.

That description fits me well, except I have become a more relaxed, slow driver. It would be nice if we could recognize people by such criteria. I actually see more danger in many wolves in sheep’s clothing, since, as is well known, just having an environmental sticker on a car doesn’t make the driver a saint.
That’s too simplistic for me—I don’t drive unnecessarily, try to behave properly, but I do like sitting higher in the vehicle and having comfort. What category that falls into doesn’t matter to me because such categories say nothing about me or my behavior. I don’t like the type of people Fikr mentioned, but I have encountered them just as often in cool flip-flops as in tailored suits. In my experience, the stereotype that extremely wealthy people are usually foolish has actually been disproven more often than confirmed.
I simply choose according to my budget and my needs/wishes, and for the relatively small amount, driving an Ioniq 5 was a no-brainer (to use this modern expression).
I, and here’s my suggestion to you, will watch platforms like goleasy carefully and especially more often during the day until eventually a car will pop up for around €200 per month/15,000 km (about $215/9,300 miles) with a very low leasing factor (currently 0.27 for me), such as a used Audi, Hyundai, Ford, or whatever. If it’s a clearly great deal, I’ll jump on it immediately. As I said, recently the Ioniq 6 including delivery and service (value at least €2,000) was around €210— I would have taken that right away. For a while, the Enyaq was that affordable, then the Toyota. If you get fixed on one model, it tends to get more expensive, and I won’t do that, though I can understand if someone has preferences.
Ultimately, everyone can decide for themselves whether to speed across the crosswalk in a Fiat 500 or always stop properly with a Hummer.
I prefer comfort and less speed. Driving performance and software are secondary for me, as I have had to drive all kinds of clunkers throughout my life. A new car today is no longer necessarily a bad car.
To meet your requirements, it certainly doesn’t take €300 per month—I expect the platform will show me that.
Tolentino25 Jan 2025 12:40
Yes, I’m now also registered with goleasy. It’s the most convenient because they automatically search everything.
Does anyone know if their data is always up to date? Then you could just skip leasingmarkt and carwow, since goleasy also covers those.

As I said, I didn’t mean to step on anyone’s toes, just wanted to explain my preference. I already acknowledged that it is mostly emotional and only based on facts to a very small extent.