Hello,
I am looking for a comprehensive smart home platform that can integrate devices from different manufacturers.
So far, I have come across the following options:
Home Assistant
OpenHAB
ioBroker
Which of these platforms is the best or most widely used?
It is important to me that it runs stably and allows for creating good automations.
Additionally, there should be a smartphone app available that can be used on the go to control the smart home or at least check the status of devices remotely.
Are all of these programs open source and available for free?
Which of these platforms would you recommend, or should we perhaps consider WiButler or Homee, which also support various wireless standards?
I am looking for a comprehensive smart home platform that can integrate devices from different manufacturers.
So far, I have come across the following options:
Home Assistant
OpenHAB
ioBroker
Which of these platforms is the best or most widely used?
It is important to me that it runs stably and allows for creating good automations.
Additionally, there should be a smartphone app available that can be used on the go to control the smart home or at least check the status of devices remotely.
Are all of these programs open source and available for free?
Which of these platforms would you recommend, or should we perhaps consider WiButler or Homee, which also support various wireless standards?
We need to decide by Wednesday at the latest what we are going to do.
@Araknis Would you also recommend using wireless for us instead of preparing the bus cable and retrofitting Free@Home (decentralized)?
Matter is supposed to be released this fall, and the house will only be handed over at the beginning of 2023, so the timing would work and we don’t have to install it immediately.
What do you mean by as few two-way switches as possible?
The stairwell and corridor always have two-way switches, and on the upper floor, we even have a cross switch.
Is it not possible to make two-way switches smart with wireless?
@Araknis Would you also recommend using wireless for us instead of preparing the bus cable and retrofitting Free@Home (decentralized)?
Matter is supposed to be released this fall, and the house will only be handed over at the beginning of 2023, so the timing would work and we don’t have to install it immediately.
What do you mean by as few two-way switches as possible?
The stairwell and corridor always have two-way switches, and on the upper floor, we even have a cross switch.
Is it not possible to make two-way switches smart with wireless?
TaiiTvv schrieb:
@Araknis would you also recommend wireless for us instead of preparing the bus cable and retrofitting Free@Home (decentralized)?I already wrote what I would do. TaiiTvv schrieb:
Matter is supposed to come this fall, and the house will be handed over early 2023,
so it would fit and we don’t need to install it immediately. Supposed to. It's very naive to base house planning (!) on marketing claims. TaiiTvv schrieb:
What do you mean by as few two-way switches as possible?
The staircase and hallway always have two-way switches,
and upstairs we even have a crossover switch. Please look it up; it makes retrofitting decentralized actuators easier. In any case, you should stay away from that.Araknis schrieb:
What I would do, I have already written.You would ideally install KNX.
However, that is not possible for us.
You wouldn’t install Free@Home because it only involves that one manufacturer.
Wireless you would only take as an emergency solution.
Sorry for asking so often, but I’m completely overwhelmed and desperate.
Could you please tell me exactly what you would recommend in my situation?
Prepare and retrofit Free@Home?
Or retrofit a wireless smart home system?
Both have advantages and disadvantages.
Free@Home is wired but you are tied to Busch-Jaeger and it is more expensive.
Wireless can have possible signal issues but is cheaper.
I would appreciate it if you could clearly state your recommendation again so I can make a decision.
Araknis schrieb:
That would be naive. To base a house plan (!) on marketing claims. In the worst case, we would have to use a different wireless system.
TaiiTvv schrieb:
You would ideally install KNX.
But that’s not possible for us. You’re not reading what people are writing again.
This is what I would do in your case:
Araknis schrieb:
I would just tick that off, install a standard setup with as few or no two-way switches, use deep back boxes, ensure good Wi-Fi coverage, and install a bunch of Shelly devices. That’s more than enough, and you don’t have to wait for Matter or similar gimmicks, whose release dates and functionality are still very uncertain. Stay away from any systems that neither you nor your electrician fully understand. To be clear: I also mean Free@Home.
You can add quite a bit with flush-mounted boxes. Alternatively, you can look into OPUS by Jäger, which operates on an EnOcean basis and replaces the light and shutter switches.
Be prepared, however, to work with software like Home Assistant and battery-powered detectors (if detectors are desired). These are the trade-offs mentioned.
Be prepared, however, to work with software like Home Assistant and battery-powered detectors (if detectors are desired). These are the trade-offs mentioned.
Thank you for your help.
So it will be wireless.
Deep flush-mounted boxes are standard for us.
Home Assistant should work after some setup.
So it will be wireless.
Deep flush-mounted boxes are standard for us.
Araknis schrieb:What do you mean by that? Motion detectors with batteries? Hardwired would definitely be more convenient.
Battery detectors (if detectors are desired)
Home Assistant should work after some setup.
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