ᐅ Beautiful new L-shaped kitchen in a newly built home, with no prior experience
Created on: 19 Jan 2025 14:56
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NeuDabei2025
Hello everyone!
I have been following your forum closely during our house construction, and now we are facing the decision of how to design our kitchen.
Originally, we wanted a walk-in pantry, but in our opinion, that no longer seems feasible. So, we have designed the kitchen in an L-shape with plenty of storage space. The water connection and electrical planning are still pending.
We had an initial design made (3D images; floor plan recreated by me), but since we have no experience buying a kitchen yet, we are looking forward to your suggestions! Thanks in advance...
Best regards
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Regarding the appliances, we are still undecided, but we could imagine the following:
Range hood: Siemens iQ500 LC81KAN60
Cooktop: Siemens iQ700 EX845HVC1E
Oven: Siemens iQ700 HB774G1B1
Dishwasher: Siemens iQ500 SN65EX12CE
For the sink, we are considering:
Franke Maris MRG 611-78 (as shown in the picture)
I have read quite a bit of criticism about durability and food discoloration.
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About the kitchen itself, here is some information:
Manufacturer: Nobilia
Fronts: Touch 336 lacquer laminate Magnolia super matte
Countertop: 149 Concrete Terragrau
Carcass: 120 Magnolia
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Brief explanation of the layout (based on the floor plan and 3D renderings):
General
We will probably have a direct passage from the hallway into the kitchen, which will remain open.
We are still unsure whether the kitchen should be 240 cm (about 94 inches) high at all (possibly too tall) and/or if a panel should be installed all the way up to the ceiling to enclose it. With friends, a fully enclosed kitchen up to the ceiling looked very good.
All handles should be centered, whether on drawers or regular doors.
We have not decided yet what to use as backsplash decoration (on the wall).
Wall next to the door
Wall to the left of the floor-to-ceiling window
Wall to the right of the floor-to-ceiling window
I have been following your forum closely during our house construction, and now we are facing the decision of how to design our kitchen.
Originally, we wanted a walk-in pantry, but in our opinion, that no longer seems feasible. So, we have designed the kitchen in an L-shape with plenty of storage space. The water connection and electrical planning are still pending.
We had an initial design made (3D images; floor plan recreated by me), but since we have no experience buying a kitchen yet, we are looking forward to your suggestions! Thanks in advance...
Best regards
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding the appliances, we are still undecided, but we could imagine the following:
Range hood: Siemens iQ500 LC81KAN60
Cooktop: Siemens iQ700 EX845HVC1E
Oven: Siemens iQ700 HB774G1B1
Dishwasher: Siemens iQ500 SN65EX12CE
For the sink, we are considering:
Franke Maris MRG 611-78 (as shown in the picture)
I have read quite a bit of criticism about durability and food discoloration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
About the kitchen itself, here is some information:
Manufacturer: Nobilia
Fronts: Touch 336 lacquer laminate Magnolia super matte
Countertop: 149 Concrete Terragrau
Carcass: 120 Magnolia
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brief explanation of the layout (based on the floor plan and 3D renderings):
General
We will probably have a direct passage from the hallway into the kitchen, which will remain open.
We are still unsure whether the kitchen should be 240 cm (about 94 inches) high at all (possibly too tall) and/or if a panel should be installed all the way up to the ceiling to enclose it. With friends, a fully enclosed kitchen up to the ceiling looked very good.
All handles should be centered, whether on drawers or regular doors.
We have not decided yet what to use as backsplash decoration (on the wall).
Wall next to the door
- Possibly a French door refrigerator will be placed centered on the wall next to the door
- To the left of the fridge will be the stove, and to the right the raised dishwasher
- We are undecided whether the cabinet on the left should have just one door or multiple doors
- It would be nice if the dishwasher is the same height as the stove, but that would make it very tall and the planner says this is not possible with the manufacturer
Wall to the left of the floor-to-ceiling window
- In the L-shape, the left side will provide storage for everything, since we no longer have a pantry
- The cabinets can only be 40 cm (about 16 inches) deep due to the window
- We are undecided whether these should have one, two, or three doors
Wall to the right of the floor-to-ceiling window
- The standard width of the drawers should be 60 cm (about 24 inches)
- The height including the countertop is approximately 90 cm (about 35 inches), with a 10 cm (about 4 inches) plinth, but I am not entirely sure
- The stove will be 90 cm (about 35 inches) wide, and we chose a range hood because a cooktop with integrated extractor would be more expensive and louder
- The sink should be centered under the window
- We are unsure whether to choose a Franke sink made of ceramic or a simpler material
- The sink should be in a cashmere color or similar
- At the end of the L-shape, we have a cabinet with a carousel
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wiltshire29 Jan 2025 09:57Tolentino schrieb:
Pre-rinsing is such a 90s thing. People really did it a lot back then. Sometimes so thoroughly that I always wondered why we even had a dishwasher. By "pre-rinsing," I mean removing larger food scraps and bigger amounts of leftovers – as described by @kbt09. For me, it also includes using a bit of water to loosen oatmeal, rice, or mashed potatoes from dishes, or rinsing tea leaves out of a cup. I experienced complete refusal to pre-rinse in our household for over 20 years. This repeatedly caused the dishwasher to stop working, and I was tasked with fixing the problem. Several times I opened the machine and gave it a thorough interior cleaning. After moving into the new house, I simply stopped getting dishwashers altogether. For me, the problem is resolved permanently.
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nordanney31 Jan 2025 11:40wiltshire schrieb:
By "pre-rinsing," I mean removing larger food scraps and bigger amounts of leftovers. You just push those into the organic waste bin with a fork. There’s really no need for "pre-rinsing." For 30 years, my dishwashers have worked perfectly fine with dishes cleaned of the bulk of debris this way.
However, if I leave pork chops on the plate and drape the spaghetti around the dishwasher's spray arms, of course it won’t work either.
Tolentino schrieb:
Pre-rinsing is such a 90s thing. People used to do it a lot back then. Sometimes so thoroughly that I always wondered why we even had a dishwasher. Exactly. At most, I might soak a pot that had, for example, rice pudding cooked in it, because it sat on the stove for three days and the residue is rock hard. But those are absolute rare cases, maybe once a month.
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wiltshire31 Jan 2025 13:30nordanney schrieb:
You can simply scrape that off with a fork into the organic waste bin. It doesn’t require any “pre-rinsing.” Whatever you call it and whatever caused the issue – it was a human-machine mismatch in our household. That of course does not mean the dishwasher is the problem. As I already mentioned.