ᐅ Bathroom Renovation / Full Refurbishment – Layout Optimization
Created on: 22 Mar 2021 19:55
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LeBruece
Hello everyone,
We are currently planning the renovation of the bathroom on the first floor in our single-family house. This will be a complete refurbishment, including a new underfloor heating system, screed, etc.
Right now, we are focusing intensively on the layout of the future bathroom, but so far, it feels like the current design isn’t quite “there” yet. We would appreciate your help in improving the layout. Here are a few conditions and facts to start with:
– Room dimensions: 2.95 x 3.93 m (9.7 x 12.9 ft); ceiling height 2.45 m (8 ft). There is a sloping roof on the right side of the plan, with the knee wall height at 1.57 m (5.1 ft).
– We assume there are two drain pipes, one on the right side by the shower area and one on the left side by the toilet behind the knee wall. Since everything will be removed anyway (floor covering, wall cladding, old radiators), moving the fresh water and wastewater pipes at the same time is possible and therefore does not have to be a strict limitation for the layout. However, the door and window positions are fixed and cannot be changed.
Here is our wishlist for the bathroom:
– Walk-in shower at floor level (preferably in the style of the “Geberit Setaplano” system). Alternatively, a tiled shower is also possible, but we really like the look of the Setaplano solution. In the current layout, the shower measures 90 x 140 cm (35 x 55 inches).
– Bathtub – we are considering a built-in bathtub with a front panel like the Villeroy & Boch Oberon 2.0 wall system. We feel we don’t have enough space for a freestanding bathtub, and a tiled bathtub does not appeal to us visually. The built-in solution is a good compromise.
– Washbasin with one or two sinks. Currently, there are three of us living in the household, so one basin would be sufficient, but you never know.
– Toilet – probably easiest to place on the right side by the knee wall, as the installation of the concealed cistern in this position seems most natural.
These are the challenges we are currently facing with the layout:
– Overall, the layout feels somewhat disjointed, as if all the necessary fixtures have just been placed randomly rather than integrated thoughtfully – if you know what we mean 🙂
– There is a children’s bedroom directly behind the wall on the left side. Placing the shower, which can be the noisiest fixture, directly against this wall might not be a good idea.
– We would like to install a glass partition on the right side of the shower (open at the bottom), but this is the direction where the door currently opens. We’re unsure if this will look good or work well practically.
– We have not yet allocated space for cabinets or shelves for towels, toiletries, etc.
Perhaps someone has a helpful suggestion regarding one or more of the points above. If anything is unclear, please just ask 🙂
Thank you very much in advance for your support!
Best regards,
Lena & Moritz
We are currently planning the renovation of the bathroom on the first floor in our single-family house. This will be a complete refurbishment, including a new underfloor heating system, screed, etc.
Right now, we are focusing intensively on the layout of the future bathroom, but so far, it feels like the current design isn’t quite “there” yet. We would appreciate your help in improving the layout. Here are a few conditions and facts to start with:
– Room dimensions: 2.95 x 3.93 m (9.7 x 12.9 ft); ceiling height 2.45 m (8 ft). There is a sloping roof on the right side of the plan, with the knee wall height at 1.57 m (5.1 ft).
– We assume there are two drain pipes, one on the right side by the shower area and one on the left side by the toilet behind the knee wall. Since everything will be removed anyway (floor covering, wall cladding, old radiators), moving the fresh water and wastewater pipes at the same time is possible and therefore does not have to be a strict limitation for the layout. However, the door and window positions are fixed and cannot be changed.
Here is our wishlist for the bathroom:
– Walk-in shower at floor level (preferably in the style of the “Geberit Setaplano” system). Alternatively, a tiled shower is also possible, but we really like the look of the Setaplano solution. In the current layout, the shower measures 90 x 140 cm (35 x 55 inches).
– Bathtub – we are considering a built-in bathtub with a front panel like the Villeroy & Boch Oberon 2.0 wall system. We feel we don’t have enough space for a freestanding bathtub, and a tiled bathtub does not appeal to us visually. The built-in solution is a good compromise.
– Washbasin with one or two sinks. Currently, there are three of us living in the household, so one basin would be sufficient, but you never know.
– Toilet – probably easiest to place on the right side by the knee wall, as the installation of the concealed cistern in this position seems most natural.
These are the challenges we are currently facing with the layout:
– Overall, the layout feels somewhat disjointed, as if all the necessary fixtures have just been placed randomly rather than integrated thoughtfully – if you know what we mean 🙂
– There is a children’s bedroom directly behind the wall on the left side. Placing the shower, which can be the noisiest fixture, directly against this wall might not be a good idea.
– We would like to install a glass partition on the right side of the shower (open at the bottom), but this is the direction where the door currently opens. We’re unsure if this will look good or work well practically.
– We have not yet allocated space for cabinets or shelves for towels, toiletries, etc.
Perhaps someone has a helpful suggestion regarding one or more of the points above. If anything is unclear, please just ask 🙂
Thank you very much in advance for your support!
Best regards,
Lena & Moritz
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Myrna_Loy23 Mar 2021 12:27So? There are really beautiful showers under the sloping ceiling.
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Myrna_Loy23 Mar 2021 12:35And the entrance to the shower like this.
Wow, so many posts 😳 I was only away for 2 hours 😀
So, I’ll try to sort things out and weigh the options for myself:
Basically, I like the idea of placing the bathtub under the sloped ceiling, since the limited height above the tub caused by the slope isn’t an issue. The knee wall is quite high at 1.57m (5 ft 2 in) — a platform could add some structure to the room here and bring the tub into focus, without creating height problems — a platform height of about 15 - 20 cm (6 - 8 inches) should be sufficient.
Because of its design, the tub is supposed to have a bit of space on both sides from the wall, and the back side would be against the wall frame or the knee wall. Therefore, your suggestion, @ypg, unfortunately isn’t an option.
By the way, the roof slope is at a 45° angle.
@Myrna_Loy
Regarding feeling cold in the shower without a door, we actually don’t have any experience with that and haven’t really thought about it... Could that really be a problem? Then a smaller shower (e.g. 90 x 100 cm (35 x 40 inches) or 90 x 120 cm (35 x 47 inches)) including a door would definitely make more sense. I don’t quite understand the “squeezing past” part, unfortunately 🙂
We also briefly considered placing the shower under the sloped ceiling but discarded the idea because we wouldn’t be able to use the space behind the door effectively.
If the shower is positioned as shown in the top left corner, we could install a towel radiator on the wall next to the “exit.”
By the way, the window opens to the “left,” I’ve updated the plan accordingly.
The simplest way to place the toilet would probably also be against the knee wall since the cistern and connection to the soil pipe can be realized most easily here. Alternatively, I could create a projection on the top wall.
Thanks so much for the great input!!
Moritz
So, I’ll try to sort things out and weigh the options for myself:
Basically, I like the idea of placing the bathtub under the sloped ceiling, since the limited height above the tub caused by the slope isn’t an issue. The knee wall is quite high at 1.57m (5 ft 2 in) — a platform could add some structure to the room here and bring the tub into focus, without creating height problems — a platform height of about 15 - 20 cm (6 - 8 inches) should be sufficient.
Because of its design, the tub is supposed to have a bit of space on both sides from the wall, and the back side would be against the wall frame or the knee wall. Therefore, your suggestion, @ypg, unfortunately isn’t an option.
By the way, the roof slope is at a 45° angle.
@Myrna_Loy
Myrna_Loy schrieb:
I always get cold without a door — keyword: steam column. There are some very nice glass showers that are easy to clean. A glass wall that’s open at the bottom only sprays water right in front of the door, and when you enter you have to squeeze past 140 cm (55 inches) of glass with your shoulder…? That would be too tight for me.
Regarding feeling cold in the shower without a door, we actually don’t have any experience with that and haven’t really thought about it... Could that really be a problem? Then a smaller shower (e.g. 90 x 100 cm (35 x 40 inches) or 90 x 120 cm (35 x 47 inches)) including a door would definitely make more sense. I don’t quite understand the “squeezing past” part, unfortunately 🙂
We also briefly considered placing the shower under the sloped ceiling but discarded the idea because we wouldn’t be able to use the space behind the door effectively.
If the shower is positioned as shown in the top left corner, we could install a towel radiator on the wall next to the “exit.”
By the way, the window opens to the “left,” I’ve updated the plan accordingly.
The simplest way to place the toilet would probably also be against the knee wall since the cistern and connection to the soil pipe can be realized most easily here. Alternatively, I could create a projection on the top wall.
Thanks so much for the great input!!
Moritz
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Myrna_Loy23 Mar 2021 13:13Stand sideways in front of a window about 50 cm (20 inches) away from the wall – this is quite tiring for the eyes because you are looking towards the glare while focusing on a darker wall or mirror. You therefore need to ensure the mirror is well lit to see clearly. Placing a toilet so close to the bathtub also feels unnecessarily cramped and not very spacious.
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