ᐅ Moisture in Bathroom Ceiling and Insufficient Insulation

Created on: 11 Jan 2021 08:46
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Jonas90
Hello everyone,

In our new build (moved in November 2020), we have noticed that the ceiling in the bathroom is damp in the middle. Yesterday, the builder sent someone to remove the drywall at that spot. Water had accumulated under the vapor barrier and soaked the drywall. Unfortunately, I have no idea how the moisture got there. The area above the vapor barrier was completely dry. Is it possible that moisture from showering could get in through recessed ceiling lights if there is a small gap, or how else could this happen?

Second issue:
After opening the ceiling, it was noticed that the ventilation pipe was not insulated, which caused a lot of condensation moisture to form on the breathable membrane in the cold roof area. The drywall installer is coming today to insulate the pipe and redo the ceiling at that spot. However, everything still looks very damp. He said it will dry out... is it okay to proceed like this, or should everything be left to dry for a few days first?

I’m quite puzzled. Thanks
Attic top view: wooden frame, black sealing membrane, red flexible duct, white cable

Red flexible ventilation hose going through hole in dark floor between wood frame, cable nearby

Open ceiling with wooden beams, insulation, cables, and pipe visible.

Ceiling opening with wooden slat, condensation on metal surface, loose cables, hanging light.
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knalltüte
11 Jan 2021 17:23
I forgot the quotation marks "" or alternatively irony: On at klitzeklein 😉
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Jonas90
11 Jan 2021 19:15
Update: The drywall installer came and insulated the pipe.
Since we had a large ladder available, I took a look around the entire attic. I noticed that the breathable membrane is damp everywhere, with condensation present. Is this normal? I thought a cold roof is cold but dry. The drywall installer said this is normal and that all the houses here in the new development are like that... but I’m not really convinced.
Red flexible ventilation duct running through wooden beams, blue packaging material around the end piece

Corner of a room with gray ceiling and pink XPS insulation board; shadow of a person.

Attic with wooden battens and blue sparkling insulation material between beams.
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Lumpi_LE
11 Jan 2021 20:42
If a cold roof lacks ventilation, that is normal; however, ventilation should definitely not be missing.
Not a mechanical ventilation system, but simply air movement through planned openings.
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knalltüte
11 Jan 2021 20:48
superzapp schrieb:
.... This looks more like a systematic error to me. Is it possible that the pipe was "forgotten" to be sealed only at this one spot? I simply don't believe that. If it wasn’t done here, it wasn’t done anywhere in the house.
I’ll just quote myself ...
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Zaba12
11 Jan 2021 20:49
I would definitely take the advice about ventilation seriously, especially without a mechanical ventilation system. That means even if it’s -10°C (14°F), you should ventilate the house several times a day with quick bursts of fresh air; otherwise, you won’t be able to live there mold-free for long.
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Jonas90
11 Jan 2021 20:49
I felt a draft at the top, but maybe not enough.