Since I am planning to build a house, I am naturally also considering smart home solutions. As this topic is completely new to me, I first need to do some research. I would therefore like to clarify some basic questions and facts before proceeding. I will simply write down my thoughts as if they were facts and would ask you to correct me where I am wrong 🙂
I want to leave KNX or BUS systems aside for now and focus only on wireless solutions, so please do not discuss which makes more sense or is "better." One step at a time; this is purely about understanding :p
There are many different wireless protocols. Open ones like Z-Wave, ZigBee; "semi-open" like eNet; and proprietary ones like Somfy io.
Somfy has the advantage that everything comes from one source and it should be plug and play. The ideal solution for beginners—you simply put together what you need, install it, and it works right away. The big disadvantage, of course, is that you can only integrate Somfy or Somfy-approved sensors and actuators and are dependent on Somfy continuing to develop new products and supporting the current protocol.
eNet is a protocol from a few premium manufacturers, and as such, the devices are quite expensive. Although it is an open protocol, it is supported by only a few providers and products. So it has the same disadvantage as Somfy: limited selection and dependency on a small number of providers.
The open protocols, which are basically standards, have the advantage of many providers. However, this is also the biggest disadvantage because it’s easy to lose oversight, you end up assembling the whole system yourself without it all coming from one source, and there are likely to be significant differences in quality.
Is this roughly correct?
I want to leave KNX or BUS systems aside for now and focus only on wireless solutions, so please do not discuss which makes more sense or is "better." One step at a time; this is purely about understanding :p
There are many different wireless protocols. Open ones like Z-Wave, ZigBee; "semi-open" like eNet; and proprietary ones like Somfy io.
Somfy has the advantage that everything comes from one source and it should be plug and play. The ideal solution for beginners—you simply put together what you need, install it, and it works right away. The big disadvantage, of course, is that you can only integrate Somfy or Somfy-approved sensors and actuators and are dependent on Somfy continuing to develop new products and supporting the current protocol.
eNet is a protocol from a few premium manufacturers, and as such, the devices are quite expensive. Although it is an open protocol, it is supported by only a few providers and products. So it has the same disadvantage as Somfy: limited selection and dependency on a small number of providers.
The open protocols, which are basically standards, have the advantage of many providers. However, this is also the biggest disadvantage because it’s easy to lose oversight, you end up assembling the whole system yourself without it all coming from one source, and there are likely to be significant differences in quality.
Is this roughly correct?
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HansDampf131111 Mar 2021 13:33untergasse43 schrieb:
And what does the handle do if I try to force the window open? Exactly, nothing.Well, there are also wireless window sensors. They do require batteries but need no wiring and can be easily installed out of sight.
untergasse4311 Mar 2021 13:37Exactly. I just wanted to point out that the handle alone is not sufficient and that the handle is only useful for convenience, not for any kind of security-related monitoring.
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Alessandro11 Mar 2021 14:11Have you ever tried to pry open new windows with mushroom locks (which almost all of them have)? That’s nearly impossible. It makes more sense to break the triple glazing instead.
Here is a comparison of the different wireless technologies:
Here is a comparison of the different wireless technologies:
bauenmk202012 Mar 2021 09:28The position of the handle can also indicate whether the window is merely closed against the frame but still actually open (for example, if it was shut by a gust of wind). With just window contacts, you can no longer verify this.
Handle position detection can also be used for safety-related functions: If the sliding door is closed but the handle is still open, do not automatically lower the shutters (this discussion has already taken place here in the forum).
Handle position detection can also be used for safety-related functions: If the sliding door is closed but the handle is still open, do not automatically lower the shutters (this discussion has already taken place here in the forum).
bauenmk2020 schrieb:
With only window sensors, you can no longer check that.Really? That would be new if that suddenly no longer works.bauenmk202012 Mar 2021 10:45Mycraft schrieb:
Really? That would be new if it suddenly no longer worked.Okay, it depends on whether the window sensors are installed to match the window and its locking mechanism, or if contacts are simply stuck on.