ᐅ Adding a basement beneath a double garage to save money
Created on: 22 Nov 2017 23:45
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Stagenberger22 Nov 2017 23:45I had a conversation yesterday with a developer who suggested that I could skip the basement under the house and instead build a small cellar beneath the double garage. The double garage could then have access to the house. He will provide a cost comparison later.
From my research, creating a cellar under the garage costs between 20,000 and 30,000 euros. If I can have a basement under the house for 20,000 to 25,000 euros more, I find that option more practical.
What are your thoughts on this?
From my research, creating a cellar under the garage costs between 20,000 and 30,000 euros. If I can have a basement under the house for 20,000 to 25,000 euros more, I find that option more practical.
What are your thoughts on this?
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Gartenfreund23 Nov 2017 06:32I also find it more practical to have it located under the house.
Where should the stairs go then? Outside the garage or inside?
If inside, you lose a parking space, exhaust gases could enter the area below, and depending on what is stored there, that might not be ideal.
But no matter where the stairs are ultimately installed, to put it bluntly, in winter you’ll first have to put on a heavy coat to get anything from this basement. Whether that’s comfortable or not is something you have to decide for yourself.
Where should the stairs go then? Outside the garage or inside?
If inside, you lose a parking space, exhaust gases could enter the area below, and depending on what is stored there, that might not be ideal.
But no matter where the stairs are ultimately installed, to put it bluntly, in winter you’ll first have to put on a heavy coat to get anything from this basement. Whether that’s comfortable or not is something you have to decide for yourself.
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Stivikivi23 Nov 2017 09:06I am currently wondering if I really need a basement. The costs should not be underestimated here. If I do decide to have one, it would make more sense to have the basement directly under the house.
A basement beneath a double garage is roughly equivalent in area to a partial basement under a house. This means that the calculation is already affected by the fact that the perimeter-to-area ratio of a partial basement (even if ideally square in shape) is always less favorable than that of a full basement. You can get a basement with half the volume for about two-thirds of the cost.
Additionally, with a garage, the front driveway side means light wells are practically not possible. Vehicles are also heavier than furniture, which makes the "basement ceiling" under a garage more expensive to build.
Nevertheless, I have considered that it might be worth looking into and asked basement builders about it. There are several precast basement manufacturers that specifically offer mini basements (just for utility rooms and storage) and could also produce them in dimensions suitable for under double carports. They all told me that it’s not worthwhile. These are sold quite well in places like Stuttgart or Munich, where high land prices cause people to save every square meter and thus avoid the above-ground utility room alternative — but they hardly sell at all where the pressure to save on floor space is not quite as extreme.
Even a utility room behind a carport — not sharing walls as a garage extension, but requiring all enclosing walls independently — is (virtually because it is above ground) cheaper to build than such a small basement.
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Additionally, with a garage, the front driveway side means light wells are practically not possible. Vehicles are also heavier than furniture, which makes the "basement ceiling" under a garage more expensive to build.
Nevertheless, I have considered that it might be worth looking into and asked basement builders about it. There are several precast basement manufacturers that specifically offer mini basements (just for utility rooms and storage) and could also produce them in dimensions suitable for under double carports. They all told me that it’s not worthwhile. These are sold quite well in places like Stuttgart or Munich, where high land prices cause people to save every square meter and thus avoid the above-ground utility room alternative — but they hardly sell at all where the pressure to save on floor space is not quite as extreme.
Even a utility room behind a carport — not sharing walls as a garage extension, but requiring all enclosing walls independently — is (virtually because it is above ground) cheaper to build than such a small basement.
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Stagenberger schrieb:
... could build a small basement under the double garage. The double garage could then have an access to the house.Does the garage directly adjoin the house?
If so – as is the case with a partial basement – during renovation you will no longer be able to access at least one (1) basement wall from above later on... Because then half or the entire house rests on the slab above it.
Is the house large? With a footprint of 140 m² (1507 sq ft), a full basement will of course be more expensive than with a smaller footprint.
And should the basement under the garage be a utility or (habitable) living space, meaning cool or warm and dry?
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Stagenberger23 Nov 2017 21:45Why do I want a basement? I have asked myself this question many times:
- I enjoyed having a basement in the house when I was a child, as it provided plenty of extra space and storage.
- All my friends and acquaintances say they would never do without a basement, whether for storage, a party room, or a hobby space.
Ultimately, I hope that a basement with 40m2 (430 sq ft) of usable area will cost no more than 50,000 euros. That would mean about 190 euros more per month in loan repayments. In exchange, the next car won’t be a BMW but a Japanese brand...
After my research yesterday and today, I have almost given up on the idea of a garage basement. Your feedback has also convinced me to prefer a traditional basement instead.
- I enjoyed having a basement in the house when I was a child, as it provided plenty of extra space and storage.
- All my friends and acquaintances say they would never do without a basement, whether for storage, a party room, or a hobby space.
Ultimately, I hope that a basement with 40m2 (430 sq ft) of usable area will cost no more than 50,000 euros. That would mean about 190 euros more per month in loan repayments. In exchange, the next car won’t be a BMW but a Japanese brand...
After my research yesterday and today, I have almost given up on the idea of a garage basement. Your feedback has also convinced me to prefer a traditional basement instead.
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