Good morning,
we plan to build on a south-facing slope. The plot offers an unobstructed long-distance view. Here is a design from the architect, which is however too large/too expensive (600,000 €) and therefore needs to be scaled down. I would like to hear your general opinion about it. Note: There is space in the bedroom upstairs to also place a toddler or baby bed, which will probably be necessary at first.
Size of the plot: 850 sqm (9,150 sq ft) on a slope
Number of floors: Basement, ground floor, attic
Roof type: Gable roof
Style: modern, simple "barn house"
Orientation: South (plans are oriented to the north)
Number of occupants, age: 2 x 30 years old, two toddlers
Room requirements on ground and upper floors
Office: home office
Guest stays per year: about 1 night per month on average
Open or closed architecture: very open and modern desired
Number of seats at dining table: 8 with kitchen island, as we like to cook and sit with friends
Fireplace, small loggia at the bedroom upstairs, and carport desired
Planning by: architectural firm
What do you especially like? Cozy seating area and the openness created by the high ceiling in the ground floor, the solution in the bedroom to have a phenomenal view and separate the dressing area from the bedroom, the seat window in the living room
What do you not like? We are unsure about the exterior view. It is supposed to be plastered, but possibly fully gray or partly clad with wood.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 600,000 € including everything (except the plot, which is ours)
Personal budget limit for house, including fittings: 500,000 €
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump or simply gas
The house will be made smaller by removing the corridor above in the living room, making the house about 1.5 m (5 feet) narrower. In the basement, the entrance vestibule will be cut off and the terrace will no longer be on the basement but directly on the earth.
My questions to you:
Do you have further ideas for savings concerning the floor plan?
Any general ideas about the floor plan type, what would you change?
The picture shows the long-distance view from the neighbor's property.
we plan to build on a south-facing slope. The plot offers an unobstructed long-distance view. Here is a design from the architect, which is however too large/too expensive (600,000 €) and therefore needs to be scaled down. I would like to hear your general opinion about it. Note: There is space in the bedroom upstairs to also place a toddler or baby bed, which will probably be necessary at first.
Size of the plot: 850 sqm (9,150 sq ft) on a slope
Number of floors: Basement, ground floor, attic
Roof type: Gable roof
Style: modern, simple "barn house"
Orientation: South (plans are oriented to the north)
Number of occupants, age: 2 x 30 years old, two toddlers
Room requirements on ground and upper floors
Office: home office
Guest stays per year: about 1 night per month on average
Open or closed architecture: very open and modern desired
Number of seats at dining table: 8 with kitchen island, as we like to cook and sit with friends
Fireplace, small loggia at the bedroom upstairs, and carport desired
Planning by: architectural firm
What do you especially like? Cozy seating area and the openness created by the high ceiling in the ground floor, the solution in the bedroom to have a phenomenal view and separate the dressing area from the bedroom, the seat window in the living room
What do you not like? We are unsure about the exterior view. It is supposed to be plastered, but possibly fully gray or partly clad with wood.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 600,000 € including everything (except the plot, which is ours)
Personal budget limit for house, including fittings: 500,000 €
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump or simply gas
The house will be made smaller by removing the corridor above in the living room, making the house about 1.5 m (5 feet) narrower. In the basement, the entrance vestibule will be cut off and the terrace will no longer be on the basement but directly on the earth.
My questions to you:
Do you have further ideas for savings concerning the floor plan?
Any general ideas about the floor plan type, what would you change?
The picture shows the long-distance view from the neighbor's property.
Solveigh schrieb:
we are just about to submit the building permit / planning permission application. I’m still struggling with the side terrace on the living floor Oh, I thought you had already built or at least started.
In my opinion, terraces primarily belong where it’s nice to sit and have a good view, and where you can conveniently access the outdoors from the house. Whether that ends up being on the side of the building in the overall design doesn’t really matter to me.
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Karlstraße16 Jul 2017 13:32Hello everyone,
thank you for the responses! Attached are the updated plans with slight changes (basement: bathroom/laundry room) and ground floor (bathroom). The roof will be either concrete (which we dislike due to cost) or a simple rafter roof – both options have been discussed with the structural engineer. Possibly with a bitumen roofing membrane on top or classic concrete roof tiles.
We still have a few open points, maybe some of you have ideas:
- Use of space under the concrete staircase (suggestion: built-in closet as storage)
- Wall between the cloakroom and stairs removed to create a more open design (shoes will be taken off at the door, with a bench planned there)
- Doors on the ground floor: two sliding doors and one regular door to the bedroom/bathroom area. Maybe a sliding door to the bathroom/bedroom area and two regular doors instead? Do we even need a door between the living area and bedroom?
- Door to the laundry room in the basement moved further into the corridor, so you access the bathroom through the laundry room: this could allow better use of the corridor area, and the front part of the laundry room could become a dressing area for the children before entering the bathroom. What do you think about this?
- Exposed concrete wall in the stair/living room area (north/east) from the basement up to the ground floor (possibly concrete throughout)
Best regards and many thanks for any feedback!
thank you for the responses! Attached are the updated plans with slight changes (basement: bathroom/laundry room) and ground floor (bathroom). The roof will be either concrete (which we dislike due to cost) or a simple rafter roof – both options have been discussed with the structural engineer. Possibly with a bitumen roofing membrane on top or classic concrete roof tiles.
We still have a few open points, maybe some of you have ideas:
- Use of space under the concrete staircase (suggestion: built-in closet as storage)
- Wall between the cloakroom and stairs removed to create a more open design (shoes will be taken off at the door, with a bench planned there)
- Doors on the ground floor: two sliding doors and one regular door to the bedroom/bathroom area. Maybe a sliding door to the bathroom/bedroom area and two regular doors instead? Do we even need a door between the living area and bedroom?
- Door to the laundry room in the basement moved further into the corridor, so you access the bathroom through the laundry room: this could allow better use of the corridor area, and the front part of the laundry room could become a dressing area for the children before entering the bathroom. What do you think about this?
- Exposed concrete wall in the stair/living room area (north/east) from the basement up to the ground floor (possibly concrete throughout)
Best regards and many thanks for any feedback!
K
Karlstraße16 Jul 2017 14:46ypg schrieb:
Quick question: Do you watch TV? Where will it be placed?Rarely. We are considering either projecting an image with a projector onto the wall next to the fireplace or mounting a TV on the wall between the sofa and the stairs. TV is not the main focus in our living room.
Karlstraße schrieb:
We still have some open points, maybe someone has ideas:
- Use of space under the concrete staircase (suggestion: built-in closet as storage)Sure, why not? Karlstraße schrieb:
- Remove wall between the cloakroom and the stairs, make it more open (shoes are taken off by the door, a bench is planned there)I would keep the wall. That way, the items are at least confined to one area. I imagine small children don’t always hang their clothes perfectly in the cloakroom. At least you don’t have to see the mess constantly from a distance. Karlstraße schrieb:
- Doors on the ground floor: two sliding doors and one regular door to the bedroom/bath area. Rather a sliding door to the bath/bed area and two regular doors? Do we even need a door between the living and sleeping areas?I prefer regular doors and wouldn’t leave any out. Karlstraße schrieb:
- Door to the utility room in the basement moved further into the hallway, so you go through the utility room to reach the bathroom. Then the hallway area could be used better and the front of the utility room could be a dressing area for the children before entering the bathroom. What do you think?I wonder where your guests would go to the toilet? Would they use the bathroom upstairs? That’s unusual but not impossible. Otherwise, they’d have to go down. That seems a bit odd but still acceptable. However, if they also have to pass through the children’s dressing area, you probably wouldn’t invite anyone but close friends inside. Karlstraße schrieb:
- Exposed concrete wall in the stair/living room area (north/east) from basement to ground floor (possibly also concrete finish)If you like it, of course. I don’t. The rest of the criticism remains the same as for the first draft. I don’t understand where these doors would lead.
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