ᐅ Assessment of a Sloping Site and Basic Considerations for the Floor Plan
Created on: 13 Feb 2019 22:05
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Nailix1
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 566 m2 (6,094 sq ft)
Slope: Yes
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Gross floor area ratio (GFAR): 0.7
Building envelope, building line, and boundary
Edge development: Garage only
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories permitted: Maximum 2 full floors
Roof type: Gable roof, 22°
Style direction
Orientation: South
Maximum heights / limits: Ground floor + 1: max. wall height 6.8 m (22 ft); Ground floor + attic max. wall height 4.8 m (16 ft)
Additional requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Single-family house with gable roof
Basement, number of floors: No basement, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, ages: 4 persons, ages 33, 33, 2, 0
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: Family use or home office? Study on the ground floor, large practice room on the ground floor
Overnight guests per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: ?
Conservative or modern construction: ?
Open kitchen, island: see floor plan
Number of dining seats: 1
Fireplace: Yes
Music / stereo wall: TV in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: Balcony
Garage, carport: Carport (limited space…)
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who designed the plan: By me (don’t hit me!!)
What do you particularly like? Why? Living on one level (upper floor).
What do you not like? Why? Paths from living area to the garden.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: ?
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 300,000
Preferred heating technology: Gas condensing boiler and solar thermal on the roof, underfloor heating, (water-bearing) wood stove
If you have to give up something, which details / extensions could you do without?
- Difficult to say
Why is the design like it is now? For example:
Whim born from boredom, professional advice has not yet taken place.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Which basics might I have completely misunderstood or insufficiently considered due to lack of expertise?
Also: Is it even possible to “bury” the house in such a way that I can access the upper part of the garden directly from the upper floor, or does the slope not allow this? (--> see “ZoningPlan.jpg”)
The blue line in the 3D views should represent the building boundaries.
Plot size: 566 m2 (6,094 sq ft)
Slope: Yes
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Gross floor area ratio (GFAR): 0.7
Building envelope, building line, and boundary
Edge development: Garage only
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories permitted: Maximum 2 full floors
Roof type: Gable roof, 22°
Style direction
Orientation: South
Maximum heights / limits: Ground floor + 1: max. wall height 6.8 m (22 ft); Ground floor + attic max. wall height 4.8 m (16 ft)
Additional requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Single-family house with gable roof
Basement, number of floors: No basement, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, ages: 4 persons, ages 33, 33, 2, 0
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: Family use or home office? Study on the ground floor, large practice room on the ground floor
Overnight guests per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: ?
Conservative or modern construction: ?
Open kitchen, island: see floor plan
Number of dining seats: 1
Fireplace: Yes
Music / stereo wall: TV in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: Balcony
Garage, carport: Carport (limited space…)
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who designed the plan: By me (don’t hit me!!)
What do you particularly like? Why? Living on one level (upper floor).
What do you not like? Why? Paths from living area to the garden.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: ?
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 300,000
Preferred heating technology: Gas condensing boiler and solar thermal on the roof, underfloor heating, (water-bearing) wood stove
If you have to give up something, which details / extensions could you do without?
- Difficult to say
Why is the design like it is now? For example:
Whim born from boredom, professional advice has not yet taken place.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Which basics might I have completely misunderstood or insufficiently considered due to lack of expertise?
Also: Is it even possible to “bury” the house in such a way that I can access the upper part of the garden directly from the upper floor, or does the slope not allow this? (--> see “ZoningPlan.jpg”)
The blue line in the 3D views should represent the building boundaries.
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WilhelmRo14 Feb 2019 19:37Was we were discussing the floor plan?
No one here knows the OP’s equity or income.
So why are you ranting like that, Zaba? The OP has drawn their own conclusions:
Only you seem obsessed with repeatedly kicking a person when they’re down.
If he doesn’t want to discuss finances with you, that’s his business. I wouldn’t want to deal with you either – you’re obsessed with saying the same thing over and over: “You can’t afford it!” Isn’t once enough?
Let me summarize:
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How many times do you want to make the point that the money isn’t enough? Sorry, but this is just crazy. The thread isn’t even 24 hours old… Sorry – it’s crazy – but I can laugh about it xD
Nailix1 schrieb:
The original poster actually wanted an assessment of the slope.
No one here knows the OP’s equity or income.
So why are you ranting like that, Zaba? The OP has drawn their own conclusions:
Nailix1 schrieb:
Yeah, yeah, you are right.
Only you seem obsessed with repeatedly kicking a person when they’re down.
If he doesn’t want to discuss finances with you, that’s his business. I wouldn’t want to deal with you either – you’re obsessed with saying the same thing over and over: “You can’t afford it!” Isn’t once enough?
Let me summarize:
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Zaba12 schrieb:
Never ever. At first I thought the 300,000 € was equity ;-p
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Zaba12 schrieb:
The 2,000 €/sqm only refers to the bare house
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Zaba12 schrieb:
You can only proceed with the floor plan if you have done a soil analysis
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Zaba12 schrieb:
Reality has caught up with all of us. For example, one year ago I financed €150,000 more than the limit I set for myself three years ago.
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Zaba12 schrieb:
You had imagined 260 sqm (2,800 sq ft) with €300,000.
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Zaba12 schrieb:
I don’t understand how you want to go from 260 sqm (2,800 sq ft) to 140 sqm (1,500 sq ft)?
How many times do you want to make the point that the money isn’t enough? Sorry, but this is just crazy. The thread isn’t even 24 hours old… Sorry – it’s crazy – but I can laugh about it xD
Escroda schrieb:
You can definitely say that to your parents.
I don’t know your site topography.
So what exactly do you find nonsense in my post?Well answered 🙂Even if you have calculated a 1.25m (4 feet) slope within the building area, that may be correct, but the original poster wants to fully embed the entire basement into the hillside. This will result in earthwork costs in the mid five-digit range and additional slope stabilization measures. Without a basement, it will only be somewhat cheaper due to the substantial concrete slab. Furthermore, significant filling and retaining work would be necessary.
Looking only at the building area is unfortunate, because everything outside of it causes more extra costs than, for example, the 11x9m (36x29.5 feet) foundation.
I myself have 3m (10 feet) over 22m (72 feet) with the same orientation. So I know what I’m talking about.
But I don’t want to argue. I have made my point clear.
There is no “last resort” on this property if the budget remains unchanged.
Zaba12 schrieb:
but the OP wants to dig the entire basement into the hillside. OK, then you probably didn’t read my post fully.
Escroda schrieb:
Your planned terrain modifications are not only unaffordable but also not allowed Zaba12 schrieb:
Without a cellar/basement, it’s only somewhat cheaper due to the massive floor slab. You didn’t look at the plan either? The finished ground floor level on the street side is about 0.2m (8 inches) above ground, but about 1.20m (4 feet) below ground on the north side. -> Significantly less earthwork compared to building a full basement.
Escroda schrieb:
Light strips to the north (the house stands about 1.20m (4 feet) above ground) Above the ground floor there’s an attic with a 42° pitched roof. There are countless standard floor plans for that. Garage and storage outside the thermal envelope as DIY work (Or at parent-teacher meetings, ask Kevin’s father, who is a bricklayer :-)).
Zaba12 schrieb:
if the budget remains the same The OP is a teacher. Another 32 years of guaranteed income and then a pension most retirees can only dream of. With just two tutoring sessions on Saturdays, the extra $100,000 is easily covered.
Zaba12 schrieb:
I apologize. Accepted.
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Mottenhausen14 Feb 2019 21:19Without wanting to interrupt your discussion, I mentioned many pages ago the low chances of actually securing the plot in such a highly competitive market – Ingolaudistadt. The response was:
This could mean either "there is already a mutually signed reservation" or just "an application has been submitted." If it’s the latter, then what are we even talking about here? A 1% chance of approval... just a pipe dream, nothing more.
Nailix1 schrieb:
No, not purchased yet.
This could mean either "there is already a mutually signed reservation" or just "an application has been submitted." If it’s the latter, then what are we even talking about here? A 1% chance of approval... just a pipe dream, nothing more.