ᐅ House and Parking Layout – Small Plot – House with Granny Flat
Created on: 7 Jan 2024 01:37
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Hello everyone,
first of all, thanks to the forum, it’s fun to follow along!
Here is the preliminary information about my project, where available:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size – 342 sqm (3680 sq ft)
Slope – no
Site coverage ratio – 0.4
Floor area ratio – 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundary – see image
Edge setbacks – 3 m (10 ft) distance from the street
Number of parking spaces – 3 (due to basement apartment; regulations of § 19 paragraph 4 of the land use ordinance will apply)
Number of floors – 2
Roof style – free choice
Architectural style – to be determined
Orientation – see image
Maximum heights / limits – to be determined
Other requirements – keep driveway to garage free for 5.5 m (18 ft) from the property line
Requirements from the Clients
Architectural style, roof type, building type – flat roof and loggia currently of interest. Solid construction
Basement, floors – basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, ages – 2 adults in their 30s, 2 small children, plus parents-in-law in the basement unit, both around 60 years old
Space needs on ground and upper floors – currently considering bedrooms on the ground floor and living/dining areas on the upper floor
Office: family use or home office? – optional separate home office room
Overnight guests per year – should be possible, solutions will be found
Open or closed architecture – to be determined
Traditional or modern construction – to be determined
Open kitchen, kitchen island – open kitchen; kitchen island not necessary
Number of dining seats – 6 regularly, 10-12 when guests, also with improvised seating
Fireplace – no
Music/sound wall – not a priority
Balcony, roof terrace – loggia interesting but not essential
Garage, carport – 1 garage, 2 carports/parking spaces
Utility garden, greenhouse – no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be – We were inspired by the Artis 301 model from Fingerhaus for the loggia and the idea of placing living and dining space on the upper floor.
The house planning will start in the next days and weeks. Since no rooms are planned yet, I would first like to focus on the surroundings, especially the integration of the garage and parking spaces.
As a basis for discussion, you will find some initial options illustrated here. The house dimensions are still flexible at this stage. One idea is to combine a carport with the covered entrance area, positioning it directly in front of the garage. This carport, however, would not count as an official parking space, so the other two (if approved by the municipality) could also be used for turning on the property.
How would you arrange and design the parking spaces and house layout in a practical way?
Thanks in advance for your feedback. If anything is unclear, please just let me know!
Good luck
first of all, thanks to the forum, it’s fun to follow along!
Here is the preliminary information about my project, where available:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size – 342 sqm (3680 sq ft)
Slope – no
Site coverage ratio – 0.4
Floor area ratio – 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundary – see image
Edge setbacks – 3 m (10 ft) distance from the street
Number of parking spaces – 3 (due to basement apartment; regulations of § 19 paragraph 4 of the land use ordinance will apply)
Number of floors – 2
Roof style – free choice
Architectural style – to be determined
Orientation – see image
Maximum heights / limits – to be determined
Other requirements – keep driveway to garage free for 5.5 m (18 ft) from the property line
Requirements from the Clients
Architectural style, roof type, building type – flat roof and loggia currently of interest. Solid construction
Basement, floors – basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, ages – 2 adults in their 30s, 2 small children, plus parents-in-law in the basement unit, both around 60 years old
Space needs on ground and upper floors – currently considering bedrooms on the ground floor and living/dining areas on the upper floor
Office: family use or home office? – optional separate home office room
Overnight guests per year – should be possible, solutions will be found
Open or closed architecture – to be determined
Traditional or modern construction – to be determined
Open kitchen, kitchen island – open kitchen; kitchen island not necessary
Number of dining seats – 6 regularly, 10-12 when guests, also with improvised seating
Fireplace – no
Music/sound wall – not a priority
Balcony, roof terrace – loggia interesting but not essential
Garage, carport – 1 garage, 2 carports/parking spaces
Utility garden, greenhouse – no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be – We were inspired by the Artis 301 model from Fingerhaus for the loggia and the idea of placing living and dining space on the upper floor.
The house planning will start in the next days and weeks. Since no rooms are planned yet, I would first like to focus on the surroundings, especially the integration of the garage and parking spaces.
As a basis for discussion, you will find some initial options illustrated here. The house dimensions are still flexible at this stage. One idea is to combine a carport with the covered entrance area, positioning it directly in front of the garage. This carport, however, would not count as an official parking space, so the other two (if approved by the municipality) could also be used for turning on the property.
How would you arrange and design the parking spaces and house layout in a practical way?
Thanks in advance for your feedback. If anything is unclear, please just let me know!
Good luck
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Costruttrice7 Jan 2024 10:12I find the plot completely unsuitable for this project because it is far too small.
Even by Munich standards, 340 sqm (3,660 sq ft) is quite limited for a single-family house, but adding a granny flat and the associated parking spaces on top of that? Is the granny flat intended for permanent occupancy?
To me, this would not provide a good quality of living, as almost the entire small garden would be taken up by parking spaces.
And as already mentioned, the very first thing to clarify would be whether this would even be approved (building permit / planning permission).
Even by Munich standards, 340 sqm (3,660 sq ft) is quite limited for a single-family house, but adding a granny flat and the associated parking spaces on top of that? Is the granny flat intended for permanent occupancy?
To me, this would not provide a good quality of living, as almost the entire small garden would be taken up by parking spaces.
And as already mentioned, the very first thing to clarify would be whether this would even be approved (building permit / planning permission).
K a t j a schrieb:
Otherwise, I see the parents completely on the ground floor including the utility room and stairwell, bedrooms and bathrooms on the first floor, and the common room plus roof terrace as requested in the attic. But that’s already 2 full stories plus an attic.
Now we are missing some statements from the original poster regarding size proportions of the parents’ apartment, etc.
kbt09 schrieb:
That is already 2 full floors plus an attic.Yes, if the original poster states that 2 full floors are permitted, I would take that at face value for now. But you’re right, without the exact development plan, it’s hard to proceed here. But please do not share links. That is strictly prohibited here and can lead to penalties. Maybe that’s why they are already banned and cannot respond...
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hanghaus20237 Jan 2024 11:06The question regarding the slope hasn’t really been answered. Without a zoning plan / building permit plan, it’s difficult to say much here.
Budget?
Clarify whether the controlling plan (CP) also has to comply with the 5.5 m (18 feet) limit.
Budget?
Clarify whether the controlling plan (CP) also has to comply with the 5.5 m (18 feet) limit.
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Allthewayup7 Jan 2024 11:23No matter what the zoning plan says, I honestly don’t see a granny flat fitting on 340 m² (3,660 sq ft), and I say this as someone who built on a 300 m² (3,230 sq ft) lot! We were only able to realize the project by using a setback waiver from my parents.
The “garden” is really tiny.
The terrace is only 3 m (10 feet) deep.
The light well also takes up space, and the rest is used for the heat pump’s footprint, the driveway, and the garage. Just like that, you’ve built on 210 of 300 m² (2,260 of 3,230 sq ft).
The “garden” is really tiny.
The terrace is only 3 m (10 feet) deep.
The light well also takes up space, and the rest is used for the heat pump’s footprint, the driveway, and the garage. Just like that, you’ve built on 210 of 300 m² (2,260 of 3,230 sq ft).
Allthewayup schrieb:
No matter what the zoning plan says, I honestly don’t see how a separate apartment would be possible on 340 sqm (3,658 sq ft), and I’m saying this as someone who built on a 300 sqm (3,229 sq ft) plot! In my opinion, such general statements are nonsense, since it seems possible to build upwards here. Then you could just call it a two-family house, I agree with you on that. But I wouldn’t say it’s completely impossible. The question remains whether it is desirable.
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