ᐅ Are doors necessary on the ground floor? Floor plan attached.
Created on: 15 Aug 2022 16:13
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Elias_dee
Hello everyone!
On our ground floor, we will have only three interior doors from the hallway to the other rooms; otherwise, the layout is quite open. Now we are wondering if two of these three doors are actually necessary. Of course, we need the door to the bathroom, but what about the doors to the kitchen and the living room – are they really needed, or could these openings just remain open?
What do you think? Are doors needed here for visual, thermal, or any other reasons?
Thanks in advance!
On our ground floor, we will have only three interior doors from the hallway to the other rooms; otherwise, the layout is quite open. Now we are wondering if two of these three doors are actually necessary. Of course, we need the door to the bathroom, but what about the doors to the kitchen and the living room – are they really needed, or could these openings just remain open?
What do you think? Are doors needed here for visual, thermal, or any other reasons?
Thanks in advance!
Elias_dee schrieb:
Maybe you misunderstood the floor plan. You’re funny. Floor plan is my middle name 😉
According to the plan, your staircase to the upper floor starts from the bottom of the plan. Your basement stairs, meaning your basement opening, are next to your sofa... or rather, right next to the living room door there’s a hole leading down into the basement, dark... you can resist all you want, be stubborn... or waste your entire electricity budget on basement LEDs. That is not cozy and will never be cozy. The space is simply too tight for that in your case. Not in general, the room itself is fine. But not for sitting next to a basement opening. Ideally, there should be about 2 to 3 meters (6.5 to 10 feet) of free space in between.
Or if you had a slope and could see bright daylight beams coming up from below into the living room. But that’s not the case for you.
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Elias_dee15 Aug 2022 21:49ypg schrieb:
You’re funny. Floor plan is basically my middle name 😉
According to the plan, your staircase to the upper floor starts from the bottom of the plan. Your basement stairs, meaning your cellar opening, are right next to your sofa… or rather, just beside the living room door, going down into the dark hole… no matter how much you resist, hold your ground, or waste all your electricity on basement LEDs, THAT is not cozy and never will be. Your space is also too tight for that. Not fundamentally— the room itself is fine. But it’s just not suitable for sitting next to a cellar opening. Ideally, there should be about 2-3 meters (6–10 feet) of clear space in between.
Or if you had a slope and could see the bright daylight coming from below the living room. But that’s not the case for you.Okay, I understand what you mean. But I still think you’re exaggerating a bit (no offense) 😉 I’ll send you pictures of my house once it’s fully furnished, maybe it’s not as bad as you think 😉
Elias_dee schrieb:
Okay, I understand what you mean. But I still think you’re exaggerating a bit (no offense) 😉 I’ll send you pictures of my house once it’s fully furnished—maybe it’s not as bad as you think 😉Gladly. I’m always happy to learn more. I don’t think I’m exaggerating: I have a good sense of space, even from 2D plans. Somehow you have to explain it clearly to the other person when the feeling or realization isn’t there.
Of course, some people don’t notice poor or “bad” use of space, or simply don’t care. But then at least the more professional approach should be taken, and having two downspouts in the living room is already a poor design choice. Fortunately, there is about 35 cm (14 inches) of clearance from the door to the staircase opening; otherwise, it would even be dangerous. Of course, you can downplay (or exaggerate) all this and only focus on the great staircase. But the great staircase shouldn’t distract from the flaws, should it?
It’s a pity your floor plan wasn’t fully discussed from your side.
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Elias_dee15 Aug 2022 22:25ypg schrieb:
Gladly. I’m always happy to learn something new.
I don’t think I’m exaggerating: I have a good sense of space, even from 2D plans.
Of course, some people don’t notice poor or missing space, or they simply don’t care. But at least in that case, one should choose the technically better solution, and having two downpipes in the living room is already a poor choice. Fortunately, there is still about 35cm (14 inches) of clearance between the door and the stairwell, otherwise it would even be dangerous. Of course, you can downplay this (or exaggerate) and just focus on the great staircase. But the great staircase shouldn’t distract from the flaws, right?
It’s a shame that your floor plan wasn’t fully discussed by you. The downpipes are no longer there; the general contractor will reroute them inside the wall. The architect just didn’t update the drawing.
Of course, the floor plan was fully discussed—between the architect, us, and the general contractor. After many adjustments and discussions, we decided to build exactly this plan (or rather, will have it built), and it is the house we want. Maybe about 95%—there’s always something you would do differently. The forum was very helpful during the discussion (and we kept making changes based on feedback), but with some forum members I had more the impression (in the original thread) that many prefer to criticize rather than offer constructive input...
Elias_dee schrieb:
The downspouts are no longer available; the general contractor will route them inside the wall.Inside the wall? Won't that cause thermal bridges?M
Myrna_Loy15 Aug 2022 23:35Ok, I understand that you consider your design perfect, but are you seriously planning to arrange the sofa corner like that? Right by the main walkway, with a view of the hallway door and the basement entrance, in front of windows? You don’t even have a view of the house’s main focal point, the staircase. An open concept is nice, but to me, that would feel too busy and exposed. Net usable space for the couch area barely reaches 12 square meters (130 square feet).
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