ᐅ Architect fees for tendering a basement construction

mane50 schrieb:

I don’t understand how the €2,300 for the planning of an entire house come about, but if invoiced according to HOAI, then it must be a very inexpensive house if “planning” means phases 1–9.

Not the overall planning, only the tendering you mentioned and assistance with awarding the contract ==> service phases 6+7.
The house is not really inexpensive (300 m² (3,230 sq ft) total area, 250 m² (2,690 sq ft) living space, very high-end fittings). Only our planner can answer questions about the price. However, the calculation was done correctly according to HOAI and a fixed price was agreed upon.

Hello,

mane50 schrieb:
This is really just about the tendering process, obtaining quotes, and comparing bids for 4 basements. The total price for this is 5,000 €. I just wanted to get a sense of whether this is typical for the market.

What is the size (external dimensions) of each basement, or are they all the same size? Are these intended to be purely utility basements or living basements? Is the architect supposed to handle the tendering only for the basements or also for the houses? What approximate costs has the architect estimated per basement; or on what basis is the cost estimate of 5,000 € for 4 basements founded?

Regards, Bauexperte

All basements are the same size, as this is a townhouse development. The basement is intended to be used as a living area, so insulation and a minimum clear ceiling height are required. The architect should only prepare the specifications for the basements. An initial cost estimate, based on the soil survey, suggests expenses of around 60,000 euros per basement (excluding interior finishing for the living space, which would be additional and done by us independently).

Hello,

mane50 schrieb:
All basements are the same size; this is a row house development. The basement is intended to be used as a living space, so proper insulation and minimum ceiling height are required. The architect is supposed to prepare the tender documents ONLY for the basements. An initial cost estimate after obtaining the soil survey suggests costs of about €60,000 per basement (excluding interior finishing as living space, which we would handle ourselves).

So I return to my first post; this is roughly how I had imagined it.

With the fee offered to you, the architect is at the lower end of the HOAI fee scale (there is always a minimum and a maximum rate). So rather on the affordable side than expensive.

Why do you think it would be expensive? Just because there are 4 nearly identical basements doesn’t mean the work is any less. I guess you are not fully aware of the scope involved in preparing tender documents 😉

Best regards, Bauexperte

Thank you for your response. Just to make sure I understand correctly, one more question regarding the HOAI calculation: I would then consider billable costs of 4 x €60,000 in fee zone III and, applying the minimum rate according to the HOAI calculator for phases 5 and 6, would arrive at approximately €4,580. Is that correct?

Hello,

mane50 schrieb:
Thank you for your reply. Just to make sure I understand correctly, one more question regarding the HOAI calculation: I would then take 4 × €60,000 as billable costs in fee zone III and, applying the minimum rate according to the HOAI calculator for phases 5 + 6, would arrive at about €4,580. Correct?

No, not quite.

Each basement is calculated individually; after all, there are 4 different billing addresses. So, fee zone III with the amount of €60,000; in the end, you will find that your architect is offering very accommodating terms.

Kind regards