ᐅ The architect wants to charge without using the HOAI fee structure.
Created on: 15 Jan 2014 14:48
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minhphuc
Hello!
After much consideration, we have decided to build our single-family house with an architect.
We had an appointment with an architect who seemed very likable and competent. However, he does not charge according to the HOAI regulation but has a different architects’ insurance. For the construction of the house, he set a fee rate of 13%.
Additionally, he offers support for another 2 years beyond the construction phase.
Besides his work as an architect, he also runs a construction company.
For a single-family house measuring 9m x 12m (29.5 ft x 39.4 ft), one and a half stories, he estimates construction costs of 400,000 € (approximately 400,000 euros) for a turnkey build. However, his fee is not included in this amount. This figure does not align with our expectations as we are aiming for around 390,000 € (approximately 390,000 euros) including the architect’s fee.
What do you think about building outside the HOAI guidelines? What advantages does the architect have, and would we be taking on any risks?
Does anyone know what costs are eligible under the HOAI regulation? What percentage does the HOAI specify for the architect’s fee?
Many thanks in advance for your help!
After much consideration, we have decided to build our single-family house with an architect.
We had an appointment with an architect who seemed very likable and competent. However, he does not charge according to the HOAI regulation but has a different architects’ insurance. For the construction of the house, he set a fee rate of 13%.
Additionally, he offers support for another 2 years beyond the construction phase.
Besides his work as an architect, he also runs a construction company.
For a single-family house measuring 9m x 12m (29.5 ft x 39.4 ft), one and a half stories, he estimates construction costs of 400,000 € (approximately 400,000 euros) for a turnkey build. However, his fee is not included in this amount. This figure does not align with our expectations as we are aiming for around 390,000 € (approximately 390,000 euros) including the architect’s fee.
What do you think about building outside the HOAI guidelines? What advantages does the architect have, and would we be taking on any risks?
Does anyone know what costs are eligible under the HOAI regulation? What percentage does the HOAI specify for the architect’s fee?
Many thanks in advance for your help!
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nordanney20 Jan 2014 21:34E.Curb schrieb:
Hi,
An architect cannot be both the architect and the builder at the same time. It has to be one or the other....
Regards Why not?
Because the architect must strictly adhere to the HOAI (Official Scale of Fees for Services by Architects and Engineers). There is no way around it. He cannot sell a house at a fixed price like a contractor does.
So, if an architect sells a house for, let’s say, 200,000 euros, then he is acting as a general contractor / main contractor / construction manager and not as an architect, even though he may of course be a qualified architect.
So, if an architect sells a house for, let’s say, 200,000 euros, then he is acting as a general contractor / main contractor / construction manager and not as an architect, even though he may of course be a qualified architect.
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nordanney20 Jan 2014 22:05Since he is building the house through his own construction company, there may be agreements between him and the LLC. As already noted by the building expert, he is more like the general contractor. This is not an uncommon arrangement. The question that arises for me is about the contracts to be concluded. These should be carefully reviewed in advance...
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