ᐅ Separate Apartment for Parents: 210 m² Detached Single-Family House with an 80 m² Self-Contained Apartment
Created on: 22 Apr 2017 18:22
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schustrik
Hello everyone,
We are planning to build a house with a separate apartment for parents.
The main house will have two full stories and a hip roof, and to reduce costs a bit, the separate apartment and the garage will have flat roofs.
The house will be built in a new development, and I have already designed the floor plan.
The plot measures 924 m² (11,470 sq ft) and is numbered 30 on the site plan.
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building height: 4.5 - 6.5 meters (15 - 21 feet)
The driveway can only be on the west side because there will be a bus stop on the south side.
What concerns me:
On the upper floor, the east wall runs right above the living and dining area and is actually only supported by the wall between the stairwell and the storage room of the separate apartment. Could this cause any structural issues?
I have drawn the exterior walls as 45 cm (18 inches) thick and the interior walls as 15 cm (6 inches). Load-bearing walls could probably be reduced to 20-22 cm (8-9 inches).
The “wet rooms” like bathrooms and toilets are spread throughout the house, and the separate apartment will have its own heating system. The sewer drainage gullies are located at the south edge of the plot near the bus stop.
We are planning to build a house with a separate apartment for parents.
The main house will have two full stories and a hip roof, and to reduce costs a bit, the separate apartment and the garage will have flat roofs.
The house will be built in a new development, and I have already designed the floor plan.
The plot measures 924 m² (11,470 sq ft) and is numbered 30 on the site plan.
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building height: 4.5 - 6.5 meters (15 - 21 feet)
The driveway can only be on the west side because there will be a bus stop on the south side.
What concerns me:
On the upper floor, the east wall runs right above the living and dining area and is actually only supported by the wall between the stairwell and the storage room of the separate apartment. Could this cause any structural issues?
I have drawn the exterior walls as 45 cm (18 inches) thick and the interior walls as 15 cm (6 inches). Load-bearing walls could probably be reduced to 20-22 cm (8-9 inches).
The “wet rooms” like bathrooms and toilets are spread throughout the house, and the separate apartment will have its own heating system. The sewer drainage gullies are located at the south edge of the plot near the bus stop.
schustrik schrieb:
Thank you for your drawings, they are well done, but the layout doesn’t suit us as it is.That actually can’t be the case, because:
schustrik schrieb:
The points mentioned earlier also apply here.are perfectly addressed in kbt09’s design. I’m impressed, hats off. If the bedroom in the main house upstairs weren’t a bit too narrow for me, I would even give the “one” a star.
schustrik schrieb:
Does a technical room not require ventilation slots in the wall to the outside?Some technical rooms do. But these can also be ducted supply or exhaust ventilations.
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11ant schrieb:
That basically can’t be true, because:
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are all handled perfectly in kbt09’s design. I’m impressed, hats off. If the master bedroom upstairs in the main house weren’t a bit too narrow for my taste, I’d even give it a "one" with stars.
....Even direct access to the WC, sauna, garage, and separate apartment are included [emoji106]
Best regards in brief
11ant schrieb:
I’m impressed, hats off to you. If the master bedroom upstairs in the main house weren’t a bit too narrow for my taste, I would even give the "one" a star. ***blushing*** ... and that’s exactly the deduction I’m making myself, which is why I would place the master bedroom downstairs right away and create two rooms upstairs from the bedroom and dressing area, where the current dressing room could then get a window. Smaller room as an office, larger room as a guest bedroom.
@schustrik ... I’m also curious which requirements are not being met. And how do you plan to proceed from here?
kbt09 schrieb:
***turning red*** ... and that’s exactly the drawback I’m giving myself, which is why I would place the master bedroom downstairs right awayYou indicated downstairs with the furniture arrangement where a bedroom could fit – but the walk-in closet was missing there.
kbt09 schrieb:
and upstairs I would split the bedroom and walk-in closet into two rooms, so the previous walk-in closet could get a window. Smaller room as an office, larger room as a guest bedroom.I can’t quite follow your idea visually there.
But anyway: considering you have just given "a little push in the right direction," the ball has already landed very close to the goal. After all, the original poster should still be able to make a symbolic contribution to the final floor plan.
I often find it remarkable how the questioners here come up with requests akin to squaring the circle, and then you draw something where everything fits perfectly.
Just the “masterstroke” with the Z-shaped garage positioned between the main house bathroom and the side house entrance, clearly divided into two parts from the front and back, and three parts when viewed from above.
You practically have "healing hands," even for the most twisted room program wish lists.
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schustrik28 Apr 2017 00:59kbt09 schrieb:
I would also be interested to know which conditions are not met now. And then, how do you plan to proceed?Actually, everything is fulfilled except for the following:
- The main house should have its longer side facing the access road, with the entrance positioned centrally, as shown in the example photos here:
- The kitchen and the dining/living area should be arranged around a corner inside the house, so the kitchen is not directly visible and has double doors leading into the dining/living area.
- A fireplace on the exterior wall doesn’t look very appealing.
- The secondary apartment should be more concealed, ideally placed behind the garage. It would also have a small south-facing terrace.
- There is a large garden area in the northeast that would be mostly shaded.
- A wider garage door is desired, but this could be achieved by spacing the secondary apartment and the main house a bit further apart.
Having the three children's bedrooms facing south, as well as the living area downstairs, is definitely a great feature.
Your drawing could also work very well for two semi-detached houses with two garages in between.
schustrik schrieb:
Actually, everything is fulfilled except for this:
- The main house should have the longer side facing the access road and the entrance should be centered,The longer side of the main house facing the access road:
You’ve got that. Thanks to the street-facing “unit” formed by the middle and right sections (due to the continuity without a shadow gap, which appears towards the granny flat). This makes the building appear “landscape-oriented,” even though the main house on the upper floor is deeper than it is wide—in terms of visual weight, that doesn’t impact the street view.
The entrance should be centered:
You have that as well. Functionally, that area is the garage door. But visually, it sits perfectly and impressively in the center, where the “frog has its curls.” If you make it half a meter (20 inches) wider—which is more than enough for a single garage—that would enhance the effect even more. Flanked by the two entrance doors. My grandmother would have called that “top-class sky-blue silk.”
schustrik schrieb:
- The granny flat should be more hidden, ideally would fit best behind the garage,That somehow makes me think of a “mother-in-law’s seat.”
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