ᐅ Separate Apartment for Parents: 210 m² Detached Single-Family House with an 80 m² Self-Contained Apartment
Created on: 22 Apr 2017 18:22
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schustrik
Hello everyone,
We are planning to build a house with a separate apartment for parents.
The main house will have two full stories and a hip roof, and to reduce costs a bit, the separate apartment and the garage will have flat roofs.
The house will be built in a new development, and I have already designed the floor plan.
The plot measures 924 m² (11,470 sq ft) and is numbered 30 on the site plan.
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building height: 4.5 - 6.5 meters (15 - 21 feet)
The driveway can only be on the west side because there will be a bus stop on the south side.
What concerns me:
On the upper floor, the east wall runs right above the living and dining area and is actually only supported by the wall between the stairwell and the storage room of the separate apartment. Could this cause any structural issues?
I have drawn the exterior walls as 45 cm (18 inches) thick and the interior walls as 15 cm (6 inches). Load-bearing walls could probably be reduced to 20-22 cm (8-9 inches).
The “wet rooms” like bathrooms and toilets are spread throughout the house, and the separate apartment will have its own heating system. The sewer drainage gullies are located at the south edge of the plot near the bus stop.
We are planning to build a house with a separate apartment for parents.
The main house will have two full stories and a hip roof, and to reduce costs a bit, the separate apartment and the garage will have flat roofs.
The house will be built in a new development, and I have already designed the floor plan.
The plot measures 924 m² (11,470 sq ft) and is numbered 30 on the site plan.
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building height: 4.5 - 6.5 meters (15 - 21 feet)
The driveway can only be on the west side because there will be a bus stop on the south side.
What concerns me:
On the upper floor, the east wall runs right above the living and dining area and is actually only supported by the wall between the stairwell and the storage room of the separate apartment. Could this cause any structural issues?
I have drawn the exterior walls as 45 cm (18 inches) thick and the interior walls as 15 cm (6 inches). Load-bearing walls could probably be reduced to 20-22 cm (8-9 inches).
The “wet rooms” like bathrooms and toilets are spread throughout the house, and the separate apartment will have its own heating system. The sewer drainage gullies are located at the south edge of the plot near the bus stop.
ruppsn schrieb:
And a fundamentally flawed design won’t turn into an award-winning masterpiece just because of one or two pieces of advice. Garbage in, garbage out. *goldeneinrahm*https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
You can find Kingsong’s design through their profile
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Meinungen-zu-unserem-Entwurf-erwuenscht.23977/
The current plan is probably from post 50 onward.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Meinungen-zu-unserem-Entwurf-erwuenscht.23977/
The current plan is probably from post 50 onward.
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schustrik3 Apr 2018 04:30Hello again, everyone.
Could you please review this plan once more?
The biggest challenge now is the path from the house to the storage room and garage.
The garage is located on the north side, while the living and dining area is on the south side.
Could you please review this plan once more?
The biggest challenge now is the path from the house to the storage room and garage.
The garage is located on the north side, while the living and dining area is on the south side.
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chand19863 Apr 2018 09:30Hmm...
Do you have an obsession with “around the corner” layouts? I actually think the bathroom on the upper floor would be perfect there.
But seriously, I’m just starting with the ground floor. If I understand correctly, the hallway is about 7 meters (23 feet) long and approximately 1.50 meters (5 feet) wide due to the cabinets, with the door facing north? That would leave daylight only from a small side window on the west at the very end, opposite the heating system (why is the heating system in the hallway at all?).
That seems inconvenient... sorry. Long, dark, with technical equipment inside, it doesn’t give you a welcoming feeling as soon as you enter. And the apartments don’t have a separate, nice entrance area either.
A guest bathroom in a shared hallway for two units? I find that odd as well.
Why does the hallway have to be so long? Can’t it be shortened at least somewhat? That would free up square meters that would really benefit the secondary apartment, since the utility room there is too small and the bathroom could also use an extra square meter.
That’s what I notice at first glance. Otherwise, I’ve imagined living there and somehow find it creepy. Sorry.
More experienced people can probably provide better input.
Do you have an obsession with “around the corner” layouts? I actually think the bathroom on the upper floor would be perfect there.
But seriously, I’m just starting with the ground floor. If I understand correctly, the hallway is about 7 meters (23 feet) long and approximately 1.50 meters (5 feet) wide due to the cabinets, with the door facing north? That would leave daylight only from a small side window on the west at the very end, opposite the heating system (why is the heating system in the hallway at all?).
That seems inconvenient... sorry. Long, dark, with technical equipment inside, it doesn’t give you a welcoming feeling as soon as you enter. And the apartments don’t have a separate, nice entrance area either.
A guest bathroom in a shared hallway for two units? I find that odd as well.
Why does the hallway have to be so long? Can’t it be shortened at least somewhat? That would free up square meters that would really benefit the secondary apartment, since the utility room there is too small and the bathroom could also use an extra square meter.
That’s what I notice at first glance. Otherwise, I’ve imagined living there and somehow find it creepy. Sorry.
More experienced people can probably provide better input.
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schustrik3 Apr 2018 12:14chand1986 schrieb:
Seriously, I’ll just start with the lower level. If I understand correctly, the hallway is about 7 meters (23 feet) long and roughly 1.50 meters (5 feet) wide because of cabinets, with the door facing north? So daylight only comes through a side window on the west at the very end, opposite the heating system (why is it located in the hallway)?The door faces west. Opposite the heating system there is a door to access the garden. Yes, it is in the hallway for now because I’m still looking for a place for it, although I know someone who also has it in the hallway.chand1986 schrieb:
A guest bathroom in a shared hallway between two units? I find that odd as well.No, it’s just a small toilet for the single-family house for the kids coming in from the garden so they don’t have to walk through the whole house. The separate apartment has only one entrance in the hallway because my parents will live there for the first five years and may move in with us afterwards (personal reasons). After the five years, we can rent out the separate apartment. It’s just an internal passage.chand1986 schrieb:
Why does it have to be so long? Can’t it be shortened at least a little? That would free up square meters, which would greatly benefit the separate apartment—right now the utility room is too small, and the bathroom could also use an extra square meter.It’s long so you can get to the garden door at the back.chand1986 schrieb:
That’s what I noticed at a glance. Otherwise, I imagined living there and somehow find it creepy. Sorry.We just want a single-family house in a townhouse style, plus a garage and a separate apartment on the property. We paid attention to the sunny side. Of course, building it completely differently might make the layout better. The main entrance should also be on the street side.Initially, we also planned the garage on the south side next to the kitchen, but that was heavily criticized too.
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