Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.
The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.
Good luck
Alro
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.
The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.
Good luck
Alro
M
Matthew0311 Feb 2019 14:15Of all the valid and reasonable objections, I would like to highlight this one again from @haydee...
...because a) in my opinion this point is very important, since in everyday life the kitchen island and dining table are focal points and, for a house of this size, they have been planned comparatively too narrow, which will annoy you endlessly... and above all, it’s relatively easy to improve given the huge utility room (which exists in addition to the basement...)
and b) your response actually doesn’t address this at all.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
What is the purpose of this huge utility room on the ground floor? It takes away space from the dining area. The distances between the table and the wall or kitchen island are okay but not generous and too narrow for a house of this size.
The utility room was initially planned as an office. However, we swapped the two rooms to reduce walking distances.
...because a) in my opinion this point is very important, since in everyday life the kitchen island and dining table are focal points and, for a house of this size, they have been planned comparatively too narrow, which will annoy you endlessly... and above all, it’s relatively easy to improve given the huge utility room (which exists in addition to the basement...)
and b) your response actually doesn’t address this at all.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
I never said it was generous! I always found it very tight and wondered why everyone says: generous, palace, etc. But never mind! That’s cleared up now. My mistake was assuming the total overall budget in the questionnaire. What would be a really sufficient budget based on your experience—rough estimate? 850K? 900K? 1M?You’re already (perhaps too) far along to go to an architect. If you start tweaking it now, you’ll influence the architect’s freedom in the design process. I’d bet the architect will come up with a completely different design but still fulfill all your requirements.
Budget? No idea, I can only guess here. Things that tend to make construction above average costs (besides the region—Bavaria, right?):
Slope – check
Basement – check
Habitable basement (e.g., sump pump system) – check
Double garage with a proper roof – check
Roof type like a hip roof – check
Bay window – check
Balcony – check
Technology, smart home – half check; aquarium too, although I have no clue about that
Long driveway – check
...
I’m sure I’ve missed something. But since budget apparently isn’t a problem with your planning, it doesn’t really matter.
As an example calculation (yes, I know it can be cheaper somewhere or with someone else):
House
240 sqm x €2000 = €480,000 (about $522,000)
Basement, almost habitable so I’d say
120 sqm x €1800 = €216,000 (about $235,000)
Double garage with hip roof €40,000 (or more?) (about $44,000)
Earthworks, landscaping, driveway—black box—€50,000? (about $54,000)
Other incidental costs €30,000? (about $33,000)
Architect €50,000? (about $54,000)
Kitchen, furniture, lighting etc. €40,000? (about $44,000)
It can all be cheaper, and these are rough estimates. But with your approach so far from post #1 “…even if it costs more,” I see the million (total budget) happening.
If that’s okay with you, go ahead with the planning... but I wouldn’t continue with the design for that amount.
T
Traumhaus202011 Feb 2019 14:44@Matthew03 Ok, the utility room is too large and the kitchen/dining area is too narrow. How can I reduce the size of the utility room? If I move the kitchen wall up, the utility room will no longer have a door. I’m not very keen on access to the utility room through the kitchen.
T
Traumhaus202011 Feb 2019 15:02@face26 Thanks for the rough estimate. We have included some buffer in the 750k (at least I have, my wife insists on a limit), because building always ends up costing more than planned. But a million is definitely too much!
M
Matthew0311 Feb 2019 15:08You could shrink the WC by a few centimeters to increase the seating area, but like many others here, I strongly recommend starting the planning process from scratch.
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