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Traumhaus20209 Feb 2019 21:30Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.
The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.
Good luck
Alro
Plot size: 1100sqm (1,1840 sq ft)
Slope: Yes (west to east)
Building coverage ratio / Floor area ratio: none
Building envelope, building line and boundary: none
Edge development: Theoretically possible, as neighboring plot belongs to parents
Number of parking spaces: 2 per housing unit (relevant if split into two apartments)
Number of floors: none
Roof type: only gable roof & hip roof (also for garage!)
Architectural style: none
Orientation: none
Maximum heights/restrictions: none
Other requirements: roof overhang of at least 50cm (20 inches)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: hip roof urban villa
Basement, floors: yes, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 4, 0
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Home office once a week
Guest overnight stays per year: 1-2
Open or closed architecture: semi-open
Conservative or modern style: rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 4-8
Fireplace: not necessary, also can’t find a suitable place
Music / stereo wall: TV wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace: balcony (only due to possible split into two apartments)
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or shouldn’t be: bay window with balcony, even if it gets expensive…
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself with SweetHome3D
What do you like most? Why? Everything. I think I spent so long working on the floor plan that I’m in love with it and probably totally “blind” to its flaws.
What do you dislike? Why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 750,000€
Preferred heating system: gas
If you had to give up, which details/extensions
- could you do without: somehow nothing
- could you not do without: large entrance/wardrobe; large children’s rooms; master bedroom facing east (I want to watch the sunrise); large aquarium as a highlight in the living area; platform staircase; children’s bathroom; and my wife absolutely wants a gallery.
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
I looked at almost every floor plan from all prefabricated house manufacturers and, annoyed by the “cookie-cutter” designs (keyword: living room/kitchen/dining all in one long corridor and stairs always immediately by the dirty entrance), I started working out my own floor plan. Many thanks to this forum because I have learned a lot from the floor plan discussions here! I even dealt with Feng Shui for the layout.
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
The rooms are ideally oriented to the sun: living spaces face south, unoccupied rooms face north. In addition, the slight slope (to the east) allows for nice walk-out basement rooms. The layout can also be easily split into two apartments, making it flexible for a barrier-free future. Technical aspects and piping were also considered: the utility room is on the street side and pipes/water lines don’t run erratically but are kept close together.
The only downside I see is that the kitchen is “far” from the entrance. However, I don’t find this very problematic and only mention it because it would probably be a common criticism.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
I’m grateful for suggestions or optimizations of any kind! Especially tips for the master bathroom. I’m not 100% satisfied yet.
Good luck
Alro
Where will you access the terrace on the ground floor?
Regarding the second living unit:
How do you plan to separate the staircase on the ground floor from the living areas?
I find the gallery above the entrance unnecessary and disruptive as a divider.
Where will the accessible bathroom be located on the ground floor?
Are connections for a washing machine, dryer, and kitchen planned on the upper floor?
I find the balcony too narrow. A table with four chairs should comfortably fit.
Ground Floor
Spacious entrance that leads into a narrow, dark hallway. It lacks openness and natural light.
Why is there this recess near the aquarium?
What is the purpose of the very large utility room on the ground floor? It takes away space from the dining area. The distances between the table and the wall or kitchen island are okay but not generous or spacious enough for a house of this size.
Where will the TV be placed?
Upper Floor
The master area looks like a Tetris puzzle. I would remove a few corners.
Are you really planning an 80cm x 80cm (31.5in x 31.5in) shower? The bathtub in the kids' bathroom seems a bit small, doesn't it?
A different room layout could prevent the parents’ and child's rooms from being adjacent wall to wall.
Slightly shift the doors in the children’s rooms so that a wardrobe can fit behind the door.
Have you already drawn all the furniture to scale by hand?
Regarding the second living unit:
How do you plan to separate the staircase on the ground floor from the living areas?
I find the gallery above the entrance unnecessary and disruptive as a divider.
Where will the accessible bathroom be located on the ground floor?
Are connections for a washing machine, dryer, and kitchen planned on the upper floor?
I find the balcony too narrow. A table with four chairs should comfortably fit.
Ground Floor
Spacious entrance that leads into a narrow, dark hallway. It lacks openness and natural light.
Why is there this recess near the aquarium?
What is the purpose of the very large utility room on the ground floor? It takes away space from the dining area. The distances between the table and the wall or kitchen island are okay but not generous or spacious enough for a house of this size.
Where will the TV be placed?
Upper Floor
The master area looks like a Tetris puzzle. I would remove a few corners.
Are you really planning an 80cm x 80cm (31.5in x 31.5in) shower? The bathtub in the kids' bathroom seems a bit small, doesn't it?
A different room layout could prevent the parents’ and child's rooms from being adjacent wall to wall.
Slightly shift the doors in the children’s rooms so that a wardrobe can fit behind the door.
Have you already drawn all the furniture to scale by hand?
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Traumhaus20209 Feb 2019 23:58Hello Haydee
Where do you access the terrace on the ground floor?
The terrace is supposed to run along the entire south side. So you could exit either from the TV room or from the middle of the living room. (The French windows are meant to be terrace doors)
I find the gallery above the entrance unnecessary and disruptive for separation
My wife insisted on it, so I had to include it. But I’m starting to like it as well. If there is a separation, it should be closed off, and then you would still have a small room (e.g. office)
Where will the barrier-free bathroom be on the ground floor?
The current bathroom and pantry are to be combined. That should be sufficient, right? There would still be room for a walk-in shower. Only with the small window, it won’t be very bright...
Are connections for washing machine, dryer, and kitchen planned for the upper floor?
I have (theoretically) considered kitchen connections. The kitchen is roughly planned above the current one. Maybe I should draw the floor plans of the two apartments sometime.
I find the balcony too narrow. A table with four chairs should fit
Yes, that's true. But then the ground floor and the bay window would become larger...
Generous entrance that leads into a narrow, dark hallway. I miss openness and light there
Yes, I have to agree with you on that! It’s also a problem when separating the spaces. Originally, I wanted to brighten up the corridor over the staircase, but the window had to be removed due to the garage.
Why this recess at the aquarium?
You mean on the hallway side? I wanted to pull the aquarium slightly into the room. In the hallway, that recess could be used for a sideboard or something similar.
What is the purpose of the very large utility room on the ground floor? It takes up space from the dining area. The distances between the table and wall or kitchen island are okay but not generous, and too narrow for a house this size
The utility room was originally planned as an office. Then, to reduce walking distances, we swapped the two rooms.
Where will the TV be placed?
Opposite the sofa, so on the right wall of the TV room.
The master area looks like Tetris. I would remove a few corners
Which ones?
Are you really planning on an 80x80 cm (31x31 inch) shower? The bathtub in the kids’ bathroom seems a bit small, doesn’t it?
I just used the standard items from Sweet Home 3D. Yes, I still need to think about that.
Different room layouts would prevent parents and child from sharing a wall. Move doors in the kids’ rooms slightly so that a wardrobe fits behind the door
I have also considered swapping the master bathroom with the master bedroom. But then both would be next to the bathrooms, which I didn’t like either.
Have you ever drawn all the furniture to scale by hand?
No. I will do that.
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Thank you so much for the tips! They have already been very helpful!
Good luck
Alro[B]
Where do you access the terrace on the ground floor?
The terrace is supposed to run along the entire south side. So you could exit either from the TV room or from the middle of the living room. (The French windows are meant to be terrace doors)
I find the gallery above the entrance unnecessary and disruptive for separation
My wife insisted on it, so I had to include it. But I’m starting to like it as well. If there is a separation, it should be closed off, and then you would still have a small room (e.g. office)
Where will the barrier-free bathroom be on the ground floor?
The current bathroom and pantry are to be combined. That should be sufficient, right? There would still be room for a walk-in shower. Only with the small window, it won’t be very bright...
Are connections for washing machine, dryer, and kitchen planned for the upper floor?
I have (theoretically) considered kitchen connections. The kitchen is roughly planned above the current one. Maybe I should draw the floor plans of the two apartments sometime.
I find the balcony too narrow. A table with four chairs should fit
Yes, that's true. But then the ground floor and the bay window would become larger...
Generous entrance that leads into a narrow, dark hallway. I miss openness and light there
Yes, I have to agree with you on that! It’s also a problem when separating the spaces. Originally, I wanted to brighten up the corridor over the staircase, but the window had to be removed due to the garage.
Why this recess at the aquarium?
You mean on the hallway side? I wanted to pull the aquarium slightly into the room. In the hallway, that recess could be used for a sideboard or something similar.
What is the purpose of the very large utility room on the ground floor? It takes up space from the dining area. The distances between the table and wall or kitchen island are okay but not generous, and too narrow for a house this size
The utility room was originally planned as an office. Then, to reduce walking distances, we swapped the two rooms.
Where will the TV be placed?
Opposite the sofa, so on the right wall of the TV room.
The master area looks like Tetris. I would remove a few corners
Which ones?
Are you really planning on an 80x80 cm (31x31 inch) shower? The bathtub in the kids’ bathroom seems a bit small, doesn’t it?
I just used the standard items from Sweet Home 3D. Yes, I still need to think about that.
Different room layouts would prevent parents and child from sharing a wall. Move doors in the kids’ rooms slightly so that a wardrobe fits behind the door
I have also considered swapping the master bathroom with the master bedroom. But then both would be next to the bathrooms, which I didn’t like either.
Have you ever drawn all the furniture to scale by hand?
No. I will do that.
--
Thank you so much for the tips! They have already been very helpful!
Good luck
Alro[B]
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
but only because of the possible division into two apartments)I don’t see any apartment separation based on the staircase location.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
Garage, Carport: Double garageIsn't that a bit narrow?
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
I want to watch the sunrise)When and where exactly? For how long? Do you set an alarm? At what time? Do you then go to the bathroom?
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
My wife absolutely wants a gallery.I don’t see a gallery. You have an open space, but not a gallery.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
The floor plan can also be easily divided into two apartments and is thus flexible for an accessible future.?? I don’t see that.
Traumhaus2020 schrieb:
But then the ground floor and the bay window get even bigger...Yes, but... Still, the balcony is far too narrow and therefore hardly useful—unless you just need to smoke before going to bed or disturb someone’s privacy.
@haydee mentioned the rest: bottleneck in the hallway on both ground and upper floors in the parents’ area. Not very practical.
The utility room is too large. Many areas are oversized. Yet not necessarily more efficient or easier to furnish, for example the bedroom, dressing room...
What is the plot like?
So, the kitchen is not next to the terrace?
Do you have direct garden access from the ground floor?
What is the purpose of the open space? Maybe with an open staircase, a hallway, and a reading corner it makes sense, but as it is?
The walk-in closet has some unnecessary corners.
Don’t plan for disadvantages just because the property might be shared in the future.
Close off the open space.
The second bathroom on the upper floor needs to be removed.
Move the bathroom to the ground floor.
Separate the stairwell.
That costs a lot of money and results in a less optimal floor plan.
You have a large budget, but it could have been smaller without any loss of usability.
Do you have direct garden access from the ground floor?
What is the purpose of the open space? Maybe with an open staircase, a hallway, and a reading corner it makes sense, but as it is?
The walk-in closet has some unnecessary corners.
Don’t plan for disadvantages just because the property might be shared in the future.
Close off the open space.
The second bathroom on the upper floor needs to be removed.
Move the bathroom to the ground floor.
Separate the stairwell.
That costs a lot of money and results in a less optimal floor plan.
You have a large budget, but it could have been smaller without any loss of usability.
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