Good morning,
In principle, the floor plan we want to proceed with in the planning phase is already set.
See thread: #177 Finalizing the floor plan Bungalow 130m² (1,399 ft²) for 4 people
However, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss a different room orientation once more.
The "living rectangle" including the kitchen remains similar to the original floor plan. The living room will be slightly shorter.
Our garden area is on the south (left side of the plan) and west (top of the plan).
This would allow the following optimizations:
- Both children's bedrooms facing west would each get a terrace door, giving direct access to the courtyard (suggestion by @ypg)
- The living room would also receive 2 terrace doors directly, now with a view of the greenery instead of the neighbor’s boundary development
- The outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump would be located "behind" the house, where it would at most bother the neighbor
What I like less, and why I am posting again to get advice/comments:
Entrance / Hallway / Foyer
- (remains an L-shape) slightly longer
- I have no ideas for implementing a coat storage
- Lighting? Possibly a narrow window in the living room
Utility room / Guest toilet
- Unusual solution if you want to keep an "L-shaped corridor"
- Entrance area of the toilet would be walk-through space for the utility room
Other possible access points:
- Kitchen
- Guest toilet
- Door to the outside
Also the question: How high is the extra effort/cost if the utility room is located on the other side of the house, in terms of connection costs?
Top of the plan: West (utility connections)
Left side of the plan: South
Right side of the plan: North
Bottom of the plan: East
I hope I don’t just get opposition but can start a productive discussion here.
Basically weighing the pros and cons.
Thank you very much
In principle, the floor plan we want to proceed with in the planning phase is already set.
See thread: #177 Finalizing the floor plan Bungalow 130m² (1,399 ft²) for 4 people
However, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss a different room orientation once more.
The "living rectangle" including the kitchen remains similar to the original floor plan. The living room will be slightly shorter.
Our garden area is on the south (left side of the plan) and west (top of the plan).
This would allow the following optimizations:
- Both children's bedrooms facing west would each get a terrace door, giving direct access to the courtyard (suggestion by @ypg)
- The living room would also receive 2 terrace doors directly, now with a view of the greenery instead of the neighbor’s boundary development
- The outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump would be located "behind" the house, where it would at most bother the neighbor
What I like less, and why I am posting again to get advice/comments:
Entrance / Hallway / Foyer
- (remains an L-shape) slightly longer
- I have no ideas for implementing a coat storage
- Lighting? Possibly a narrow window in the living room
Utility room / Guest toilet
- Unusual solution if you want to keep an "L-shaped corridor"
- Entrance area of the toilet would be walk-through space for the utility room
Other possible access points:
- Kitchen
- Guest toilet
- Door to the outside
Also the question: How high is the extra effort/cost if the utility room is located on the other side of the house, in terms of connection costs?
Top of the plan: West (utility connections)
Left side of the plan: South
Right side of the plan: North
Bottom of the plan: East
I hope I don’t just get opposition but can start a productive discussion here.
Basically weighing the pros and cons.
Thank you very much
Nordlys schrieb:
If you build with tund c, you really have to do some calculations.I assume you are not building with Town & Country, @micric3?
If you want further assistance, you should add the orientation to your sketches because you often mention your south and west, but no one here can remember your plot over weeks.
@ypg: We want to build with a local structural builder who is a franchisee of Town & Country.
I will include the north arrow in the future. I briefly mentioned it in the initial post.
plan-top: West (utility connections)
plan-left: South
plan-right: North
plan-bottom: East
I will include the north arrow in the future. I briefly mentioned it in the initial post.
plan-top: West (utility connections)
plan-left: South
plan-right: North
plan-bottom: East
micric3 schrieb:
However, I wouldn’t be able to place both children’s bedrooms on the west side. Here, I agree with @hampshire #7 A room is much brighter and more pleasant if it has natural light from two sides rather than only from the west. But apparently, there is a lack of imagination here (as with some other aspects of the plan).
Ultimately, 140m² (1507 sq ft) is just 140m² (1507 sq ft). For a house meant for 4 people, this is very tight. It is unfortunately also not enough for attic conversion – increasing the roof pitch and adding insulation are probably not feasible.
It seems the original poster might not fully understand what it means to incorporate outbuildings. They are not simply “planned for,” but actually integrated directly into the house. It’s like building an extension while saving on new construction area by repurposing existing rooms. Maybe I missed the part where the original poster explained why they don’t want this. The whole thing has become too unclear by now.
micric3 schrieb:
@ypg: We want to build with a regional solid construction company, which is a franchisee of Town & Country.
In the future, I will include the north arrow on the plans. I briefly mentioned it in the original post.
plan-top: West (utility connections)
plan-left: South
plan-right: North
plan-bottom: EastThanks again for the information. It confirms my view regarding the L-shape, since you double South and with the entrance in the North-West, you get as many options as in the South without a disruptive entrance.
Due to recent issues:
My phone automatically changes the brand name while typing and deletes what I wrote.
So this does not make sense:
What I actually meant is: to keep wall spaces where you don’t bump into the sides of cabinets, but can walk past the cabinets comfortably.
Now I will leave the topic here.
My phone automatically changes the brand name while typing and deletes what I wrote.
So this does not make sense:
What I actually meant is: to keep wall spaces where you don’t bump into the sides of cabinets, but can walk past the cabinets comfortably.
Now I will leave the topic here.
Regarding the plan. The bedroom now has a reasonable size.
Try this: Take the two toilets and bathrooms and place them where the 15.8cm (6 inches) bearing wall currently is. Move that wall to where the bathrooms are now. Close the utility room door and instead create an entrance to the kitchen from there.
Reasoning: Bathrooms won’t need drainage pipes under the screed then. The waste water goes straight out. This is reassuring.
The utility room is for household tasks, and so is the kitchen. Both should form a functional unit, with the kitchen storing dishes and a small amount of food, and the utility room for supplies and such. Also for shoes. Don’t forget a utility sink in case you need to wash dirty hands, peel early potatoes, or empty dirty water.... Having the back door as an entrance is practical for someone in work clothes or garden clogs.
Keep the utility room unheated so that supplies are stored in a cool environment.
Try this: Take the two toilets and bathrooms and place them where the 15.8cm (6 inches) bearing wall currently is. Move that wall to where the bathrooms are now. Close the utility room door and instead create an entrance to the kitchen from there.
Reasoning: Bathrooms won’t need drainage pipes under the screed then. The waste water goes straight out. This is reassuring.
The utility room is for household tasks, and so is the kitchen. Both should form a functional unit, with the kitchen storing dishes and a small amount of food, and the utility room for supplies and such. Also for shoes. Don’t forget a utility sink in case you need to wash dirty hands, peel early potatoes, or empty dirty water.... Having the back door as an entrance is practical for someone in work clothes or garden clogs.
Keep the utility room unheated so that supplies are stored in a cool environment.