ᐅ Air-to-water heat pump consumption at 30 kWh per day

Created on: 16 Jan 2021 16:30
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M. Gerd
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M. Gerd
16 Jan 2021 16:30
Hello everyone,

We have an 8 kW air-to-water heat pump from Kermi and a KfW55 house with about 200m² (2,150 sq ft). Currently, the indoor temperature is quite warm at 24.5°C (76°F). Yes, I know that is quite high. The consumption figures are only for the underfloor heating and are separate from the hot water usage.

I understand that the higher temperature leads to increased consumption, but could it possibly be too high?

We live just north of Hanau and in December maintained around 23°C (73°F) with a daily consumption of 6-8 kWh. When it got colder around Christmas, consumption rose to about 20 kWh. It has gotten even colder recently (-6 to 2°C / 21 to 36°F), and we simultaneously raised the temperature to about 24°C (75°F), resulting in a consumption of 30 kWh now.

I read that average consumption is based on 19°C (66°F), and for every degree above that, you need roughly 10% more energy. That would put us at about 60% higher consumption, but is 30 kWh then reasonable? According to the KfW application, we require around 30 W/m² (3 W/sq ft), which totals about 6 kW. But what exactly does that 6 kW refer to — over 24 hours? At what outside temperature? With an indoor temperature of 19°C (66°F)?

We had days in December with consumption as low as 6 kWh, which I think is quite good. However, with a few degrees colder weather and the heating curve increased by 1°C (2°F), the consumption jumps so much? By the way, we heat only via the heating curve, without any additional controllers.

Thanks in advance 🙂
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nordanney
16 Jan 2021 17:18
M. Gerd schrieb:

According to the KfW application, we need about 30W/m2 (3 sq ft).

That is just a figure. It has nothing to do with consumption or similar.

What did the room-by-room heating load calculation say? How is the underfloor heating designed? What kind of air-to-water heat pump is it?
Of course, you have sauna temperatures, which definitely costs a lot of money, whether the heating system is well or poorly designed.
Such consumption during subzero temperatures can happen...
But we don’t know enough about the heating system for that.
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M. Gerd
16 Jan 2021 18:21
Hey, here are the details:

We have two calculations: Kermi (engineer)
Heating load calculation by Kermi: 8475 (6650)
Underfloor heating design by Kermi: 20/24 (21/24)

The underfloor heating was installed as close together as possible, with tighter spacing near the windows.

We also have a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery (also from Kermi). It runs 24/7, and when I turn it off, the room temperature rises by 1°C (1.8°F).
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Bookstar
16 Jan 2021 18:57
30 kWh per day are absolutely reasonable for the area and temperatures, even rather good!

The question is why 24 degrees Celsius (75°F) is needed at all? In summer, I would activate the air conditioning and cool down to 21 degrees Celsius (70°F). Crazy!
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Lumpi_LE
16 Jan 2021 19:24
With the temperatures and size, the values definitely stay within a reasonable range.
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hegi___
16 Jan 2021 19:37
If you had designed the underfloor heating for 24 degrees from the start, it would have been more cost-effective. Increasing the supply temperature by 1 degree already reduces efficiency by about 2 percent, and this is on top of the additional energy consumption.

Nevertheless, a hydraulic balancing should still be carried out.

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