ᐅ Air-to-Air vs. Air-to-Water Heat Pump for a KfW55 House – Importance of Cooling Function

Created on: 26 Jun 2023 14:32
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nanella
Hello everyone,
we are currently deciding between several prefab house suppliers, and a major difference is the heating system offered. Some suppliers install an air-to-air heat pump as standard (cooling available at extra cost), while others provide an air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating and a ventilation system with heat recovery (an air conditioning unit can be added). Geothermal or groundwater as a heat source will likely not be an option for the plot we are currently considering. It will be a KFW 55 house, initially without photovoltaics for cost reasons, but solar panels are planned to be added later.

We have already read quite a bit on the topic, but as laypeople, we find it difficult to make a decision regarding the heating system. It is important to know that we are very sensitive to heat and want to include active cooling right from the start. In the worst case, we would need to heat/cool only individual rooms.

These are the advantages and disadvantages we know so far:




























Heat Pump Advantages Disadvantages
Air-to-Air with Cooling Function
  • Heating and cooling in one system
  • Relatively inexpensive upfront


  • Noise level still needs to be checked (is it different from a ventilation system noise?)
  • More difficult to control temperatures individually in different rooms compared to underfloor heating

Air-to-Water with Underfloor Heating + Air Conditioning
  • Switching to other heat sources is easier
  • Air conditioning works very well together with photovoltaics (you want to cool mainly when there is a lot of sunshine)
  • Warm floors in winter


  • More expensive upfront, especially including the air conditioning (exact cost difference is not clear yet)
  • Air conditioning without photovoltaics means high energy costs

Air-to-Water with Underfloor Heating with Cooling Function
  • Switching to other heat sources is easier


  • Only a few degrees of cooling possible
  • Cold floors in summer (a very important disadvantage for health reasons)



In principle, this results in 3 options that we are currently considering (we were advised against underfloor heating with cooling function for the reasons mentioned):
  • Install air-to-air heat pump with cooling function
  • Install air-to-water with underfloor heating, add air conditioning when photovoltaics are installed, and live with the heat until then
  • Install air-to-water with underfloor heating and air conditioning, tolerate high cooling costs until photovoltaics are added

Which option would you prefer, or do you see another solution? Do you have any ideas which option would be better in terms of running costs? Because we probably have a rather expensive plot and need to watch costs during construction, air-to-air currently sounds like the better solution to us.

We would appreciate your assessments.
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KarstenausNRW
5 Jul 2023 11:18
Blue plastic terminal block with white holder, building services component

Buy, plug in, cool down, and a few filler words for the forum software...
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filosof
5 Jul 2023 11:20
KarstenausNRW schrieb:

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Buy it, plug it in, cool it down, and add some filler words for the forum software...
Oh man. I wish I had known that earlier... I think I’m paying about 800€ extra for the cooling function :-(
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jrth2151
5 Jul 2023 11:36
Why hasn't any manufacturer thought of offering indoor air conditioning units instead of underfloor cooling for regular heat pumps?
The technology is basically the same as far as I know, and with a split air conditioning system, you basically have the same outdoor unit again outside.
Is there a technical reason why this connection isn’t possible?
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Ramona13
5 Jul 2023 11:51
jrth2151 schrieb:

Why hasn’t any manufacturer come up with the idea to offer indoor air conditioning units instead of floor cooling for standard heat pumps?
As far as I know, the technology is basically the same, and with a split air conditioning system, you basically have the same outdoor unit installed outside.
Is there a technical reason why these two cannot be combined?

I’ve seen that Panasonic offers an Aquarea EcoFlex model that can do this. However, I haven’t been able to find it in any online store yet.
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Alessandro
26 Jul 2023 09:07
jrth2151 schrieb:

Why hasn’t any manufacturer come up with indoor air conditioning units as an alternative to floor cooling for standard heat pumps?
As far as I know, the technology is basically the same, and for a split air conditioning system, you basically have the same outdoor unit again outside.
Is there a technical reason why these can’t be combined?

An "air conditioner" is actually an air-to-air heat pump!
In well-insulated new buildings, I would always prefer this over an air-to-water heat pump.
Faster response time for heating, ventilation, and cooling (HVAC), lower initial costs, active dehumidification, and hardly any space required in the utility room or basement!
Domestic hot water is produced with an electric instantaneous water heater.
Comparison table: Advantages and disadvantages of air-to-water and air-to-air systems with notes.
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jrth2151
26 Jul 2023 09:43
Alessandro schrieb:

An "air conditioning system" is an air-to-air heat pump!
In a well-insulated new building, I would always prefer this over an air-to-water heat pump.
Faster response time with ERR, lower investment costs, active dehumidification, hardly any space needed in the utility room or basement!
Domestic hot water is produced using an electric instantaneous water heater.

That is clear to me. The question is why no manufacturer offers suitable indoor units for standard heat pumps (heating systems) that can provide cooling in winter. There are also multi-split systems for air conditioners, so why not something similar?

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