ᐅ Advance payment for the window installment (or window payment)
Created on: 7 Jun 2023 16:54
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Bayernbors
Hello everyone
Our general contractor informed us that the window manufacturer is offering a discount and wants to pass it on to us. This discount only applies to orders confirmed and paid for before the end of this month.
We are still far from the stage of window installation (we are just starting).
What risks are associated with making an early payment for the windows before they are actually installed in our house? Are there any ways to mitigate these risks?
Thank you very much
Best regards
Our general contractor informed us that the window manufacturer is offering a discount and wants to pass it on to us. This discount only applies to orders confirmed and paid for before the end of this month.
We are still far from the stage of window installation (we are just starting).
What risks are associated with making an early payment for the windows before they are actually installed in our house? Are there any ways to mitigate these risks?
Thank you very much
Best regards
HoisleBauer22 schrieb:
By the way, I had a similar issue with an electrician who wanted the full amount for the upgrade options I chose (almost 10,000) right after the rough-in installation. Where did you choose the upgrades (with the general contractor or the electrician), and did you really upgrade (more outlets, nicer switch frames) or rather extend (access points, solar panels, satellite system, charging station, “smart” gadgets that are not even included in the scope of work)?
If the general contractor says “arrange extra work directly with the tradespeople,” then from the tradesperson’s point of view, that naturally happens separately and not according to the payment schedule between you and the general contractor. Usually, general contractors already put enough pressure on their subcontractors regarding payment deadlines, so they don’t want to wait even longer for additional earnings. This is often a source of misunderstandings and disputes when general contractors allow bypass transactions between the client and subcontractors.
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xMisterDx11 Jun 2023 01:02Yes, 11ant, that's true.
However, it doesn’t always go wrong; often, it goes well...
And when it goes well, you save a lot of money. I paid 40 EUR (about $40) gross for one electrical outlet, while my neighbor paid 120 EUR (about $120) through his general contractor.
So, it’s a kind of “security” that you pay dearly for.
That’s the expert’s perspective... and you have to be careful when mentioning this, since it’s also their job and livelihood.
And of course, the expert also benefits from the homeowners’ fear of defects. If that wasn’t the case, they would work on commission...
Just my 2 cents...
However, it doesn’t always go wrong; often, it goes well...
And when it goes well, you save a lot of money. I paid 40 EUR (about $40) gross for one electrical outlet, while my neighbor paid 120 EUR (about $120) through his general contractor.
So, it’s a kind of “security” that you pay dearly for.
That’s the expert’s perspective... and you have to be careful when mentioning this, since it’s also their job and livelihood.
And of course, the expert also benefits from the homeowners’ fear of defects. If that wasn’t the case, they would work on commission...
Just my 2 cents...
We also paid the additional cost for the electrical work directly during the rough installation. It was only €1500 and went straight to the general contractor, who then passed it on to the electrician. I had no concerns about this with my general contractor.
In my opinion, it’s different if you pay a trade for extra costs or upgrades—usually directly to the trade already on site (for example, the electrician). Versus having to pay in advance for an entire trade’s work in the lower five-figure range, even though their work won’t start for quite some time.
In my opinion, it’s different if you pay a trade for extra costs or upgrades—usually directly to the trade already on site (for example, the electrician). Versus having to pay in advance for an entire trade’s work in the lower five-figure range, even though their work won’t start for quite some time.
xMisterDx schrieb:
Yes 11ant, that’s true.
However, it doesn’t always go wrong, it often goes well too... I wasn’t talking about anything going wrong at all (???)
xMisterDx schrieb:
That’s the expert’s perspective... and... you have to mention it carefully, it’s part of their job, which they depend on for income.
And of course, the expert also benefits from the builders’ fear of defects. If that weren’t the case, they would work on commission... Which expert and which fear?
xMisterDx schrieb:
And if it goes well, you save a lot of money. I paid 40 EUR gross for a power outlet, my neighbor paid 120 EUR through his general contractor.
A “security” that you pay a high price for. A casual reader might now “conclude” that your neighbor paid his general contractor a 200% commission for passing the bills into the greed pit (and that the world is flat) :-(
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HoisleBauer2211 Jun 2023 18:43kati1337 schrieb:
We paid the extra cost for the electrical work directly during the rough-in phase. It was only €1500 and went straight to the general contractor For us, the payment went directly to the electrician. At Heinz von Heiden, any additions made after the planning meeting are settled directly with the trades, without going through Heinz von Heiden.
11ant schrieb:
Where did you make the additions? With the electrician: more power outlets and switches, but also more LAN sockets. Patch panel and network cabinet as well.
HoisleBauer22 schrieb:
In our case, any additions are handled directly by the electrician. At Heinz von Heiden, every change after the planning meeting is settled directly with the trades, bypassing Heinz von Heiden entirely. In other words, the general contractor (GC) treats the planning meeting as final, with no changes allowed to the contract. Legally, these additions then become separate direct agreements between the customer and the subcontractor. This raises serious concerns regarding warranties. For me, a GC operating this way would be unacceptable.
This also explains why the subcontractor excludes the entire difference in additions from the payment schedule between you and the GC.
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